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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, ehabkost@redhat.com, gleb@redhat.com,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	blauwirbel@gmail.com, avi@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 15:02:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pq7acrdf.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50198508.10303@suse.de>

Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:

> Am 01.08.2012 20:25, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>> Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:
>> 
>>> Am 01.08.2012 17:43, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>>> Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> v2:
>>>>>   ommited moving of x86_cpu_realize() from cpu_x86_init() to pc_new_cpu(),
>>>>>   to keep cpu_init implementation in -softmmu and -user targets the same
>>>>>   in single place and maintanable.
>>>>>
>>>>> v3:
>>>>>   reuse cpu_is_bsp() rather than open code check if apicbase has BSP bit set
>>>>>
>>>>> tree for testing:
>>>>>   https://github.com/imammedo/qemu/tree/x86_reset_v3
>>>>>
>>>>> comiple & run tested with x86_64-linux-user, x86_64-softmmu targets
>>>>>
>>>>> Igor Mammedov (2):
>>>>>   target-i386: move cpu halted decision into x86_cpu_reset
>>>>>   target-i386: move cpu_reset and reset callback to cpu.c
>>>>
>>>> Applied all.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> So do you intend to refactor all machines accordingly or leave it
>>> inconsistent now?
>> 
>> Are you asking me?
>> 
>> No, I have no intention of touching any other machine.  We're not going
>> to limit cleaning up target-i386 unless every other machine is cleaned
>> up too.
>> 
>> Reset logic should live in the CPU.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.
>
> Yes, I'm asking you, since you replied and applied the series without
> responding to my review comment on patch 2/2. You probably applied it
> locally before reading my comments but then I would still have expected
> a reply on how to proceed in light of those comments:

No, I saw your comment, although I had already decided to apply it by
then.

> Before applying this, as I've pointed out to Igor at least once before,
> all machines do such reset handling themselves. Patch 2/2 that you
> applied makes target-i386 break away from that scheme. (I wonder that
> Peter hasn't protested yet...)

Devices manage their own reset.  CPUs are just another type of device.
It's completely logically that CPUs handle their own reset.

> Anyway, that being the last patch in this series, I see no value in
> doing this on its own for target-i386 only.

There's obvious value.  You would prefer all targets get refactored
too.  But that's an unrealistic expectation to place on contributors.

> So now we should either
> revert that patch and later replace it with one that does a touch-all
> change across the boards, or someone needs to volunteer (and you agree,
> during the Freeze) to refactor all other machines accordingly, which
> will take a while to get Acked-bys from machine maintainers... Or just
> defer touching reset callbacks until we have the CPU as a device and
> then drop the callbacks instead of moving them.

Sorry, but no, this is completely unreasonable.  Fighting against
improvements because you want more to be improved is
counter-productive.  No step in the right direction is too small.

> Note the point of disagreement here is not "reset logic" - it's great
> that the APIC BSP fiddling is gone from PC with patch 1/2 - but the
> registration of system-level callbacks in cpu.c in patch 2/2. I thought
> we all agreed that we want to make CPU a device and have it reset as a
> device? No such callback in cpu.c will be needed then and we thus seem
> to be, in absence of follow-ups for 1.2, needlessly moving to-be-dead
> code around. Not doing that seems like a no-brainer to me.

Devices do one of two things today:

1) register a reset callback

2) implement a reset method that is invoked through it's parent bus

Since I don't expect CPUs to exist on a bus, it's not immediately clear
to me that (1) isn't going to be what we do for quite some time.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-01 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-23 13:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c Igor Mammedov
2012-07-23 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: move cpu halted decision into x86_cpu_reset Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 14:00   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 10:11     ` Igor Mammedov
2012-07-23 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: move cpu_reset and reset callback to cpu.c Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 14:09   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01  8:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c Gleb Natapov
2012-08-01 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 15:50   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 18:25     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 19:35       ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 20:02         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-08-01 20:16           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 20:47             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 21:25               ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 21:43                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-01 22:15                   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 11:19                   ` Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 20:57           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 21:19             ` Anthony Liguori

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