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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] qtest: Log verbosity changes
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 11:42:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r09wlu87.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-naWfN5sLSJ3uS6VjC3HWvyaGqAk0=B_iqTYgtJOH+ow@mail.gmail.com>

Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

> On Fri, 6 Sept 2024 at 09:14, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 08:16:31AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> > On 05/09/2024 23.03, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > This series silences QEMU stderr unless the QTEST_LOG variable is set
>> > > and silences -qtest-log unless both QTEST_LOG and gtest's --verbose
>> > > flag is passed.
>> > >
>> > > This was motivated by Peter Maydell's ask to suppress deprecation
>> > > warn_report messages from the migration-tests and by my own
>> > > frustration over noisy output from qtest.
>
> This isn't what I want, though -- what I want is that a
> qtest run should not print "warning:" messages for things
> that we expect to happen when we run that test. I *do* want
> warnings for things that we do not expect to happen when
> we run the test.
>
>> > Not sure whether we want to ignore stderr by default... we might also miss
>> > important warnings or error messages that way...?
>>
>> I would prefer if our tests were quiet by default, and just printed
>> clear pass/fail notices without extraneous fluff. Having an opt-in
>> to see full messages from stderr feels good enough for debugging cases
>> where you need more info from a particular test.
>
> I find it is not uncommon that something fails and
> you don't necessarily have the option to re-run it with
> the "give me the error message this time" flag turn on.
> CI is just the most obvious example; other kinds of
> intermittent failure can be similar.
>
>> Probably we should set verbose mode in CI though, since it is tedious
>> to re-run CI on failure to gather more info
>>
>> > If you just want to suppress one certain warning, I think it's maybe best to
>> > fence it with "if (!qtest_enabled()) { ... }" on the QEMU side - at least
>> > that's what we did in similar cases a couple of times, IIRC.
>>
>> We're got a surprisingly large mumber of if(qtest_enabled()) conditions
>> in the code. I can't help feeling this is a bad idea in the long term,
>> as its making us take different codepaths when testing from production.
>
> What I want from CI and from tests in general:
>  * if something fails, I want all the information
>  * if something unexpected happens I want the warning even
>    if the test passes (this is why I grep the logs for
>    "warning:" in the first place -- it is to catch the case
>    of "something went wrong but it didn't result in QEMU or
>    the test case exiting with a failure status")
>  * if something is expected, it should be silent
>
> That means there's a class of messages where we want to warn
> the user that they're doing something that might not be what
> they intended or which is deprecated and will go away soon,
> but where we do not want to "warn" in the test logging because
> the test is deliberately setting up that oddball corner case.
>
> It might be useful to have a look at where we're using
> if (qtest_enabled()) to see if we can make some subcategories
> avoid the explicit if(), e.g. by having a warn_deprecated(...)
> and hide the "don't print if qtest" inside the function.
>

I could add error/warn variants that are noop in case qtest is
enabled. It would, however, lead to this pattern which is discouraged by
the error.h documentation (+Cc Markus for advice):

before:
    if (!dinfo && !qtest_enabled()) {
        error_report("A flash image must be given with the "
                     "'pflash' parameter");
        exit(1);
    }

after:
    if (!dinfo) {
        error_report_noqtest(&error_fatal,
                             "A flash image must be given with the "
                             "'pflash' parameter");
    }

For both error/warn, we'd reduce the amount of qtest_enabled() to only
the special cases not related to printing. We'd remove ~35/83 instances,
not counting the 7 printfs.

> Some categories as a starter:
>  * some board models will error-and-exit if the user
>    didn't provide any guest code (eg no -kernel option),
>    like hw/m68k/an5206.c. When we're running with the
>    qtest accelerator it's fine and expected that there's
>    no guest code loaded because we'll never run any guest code
>  * in some places (eg target/arm/cpu.c) we treat qtest as
>    another accelerator type, so we might say
>    if (tcg_enabled() || qtest_enabled()) to mean "not
>    hvf or kvm"
>  * sometimes we print a deprecation message only if
>    not qtest, eg hw/core/numa.c or hw/core/machine.c
>  * the clock related code needs to be qtest aware because
>    under qtest it's the qtest protocol that advances the
>    clock
>  * sometimes we warn about possible user error if not
>    qtest, eg hw/ppc/pnv.c or target/mips/cpu.c
>
> thanks
> -- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-06 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 21:03 [RFC PATCH 0/2] qtest: Log verbosity changes Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 21:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] tests/qtest: Mute QEMU stderr Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-05 21:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] tests/qtest: Mute -qtest-log Fabiano Rosas
2024-09-06  6:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] qtest: Log verbosity changes Thomas Huth
2024-09-06  8:14   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-09-06  9:52     ` Peter Maydell
2024-09-06 14:42       ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2024-09-13 10:02         ` Markus Armbruster
2024-09-13 10:08           ` Peter Maydell
2024-09-13 11:29             ` Markus Armbruster
2024-09-13 11:46               ` Peter Maydell
2024-09-13 12:14                 ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-13 11:56       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-09-14  9:35         ` Markus Armbruster

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