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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Evgeny Voevodin" <e.voevodin@samsung.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Peter Crosthwaite" <peter.crosthwaite@petalogix.com>,
	"Max Filippov" <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Guan Xuetao" <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	"Igor Mitsyanko" <i.mitsyanko@samsung.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	"Andreas Färber" <andreas.faerber@web.de>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"Maksim Kozlov" <m.kozlov@samsung.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	"Paul Brook" <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	"Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Langsdorf" <mark.langsdorf@calxeda.com>,
	"Michael Walle" <michael@walle.cc>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Dmitry Solodkiy" <d.solodkiy@samsung.com>,
	"Peter Chubb" <peter.chubb@nicta.com.au>,
	"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 00/27] Suppress unused default drives
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:48:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4r77ugi.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sjbn524v.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:

> Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> writes:
>
>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>>
>>> On 15 August 2012 20:25, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>>>> On 15.08.2012, at 21:17, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We create a number of default drives for machines to use: floppy,
>>>>> CD-ROM, SD card.  Machines can suppress the ones they don't use, but
>>>>> few do.  Fix that.
>>>
>>>>> v2:
>>>>>  Make default drives opt-in instead of opt-out for boards (Andreas)
>>>>>  Cover new target unicore32
>>>>>  Bonus fix for unicore32 -M puv3 without -kernel
>>>>>  Cover mpc8544ds, pseries (missed in v1)
>>>>
>>>> Nack from my POV. Too late for 1.2. Better get this in early for 1.3.
>
> What's the risk?
>
> For the record, I tested every single machine to make sure it still gets
> default drives for any drive it uses.
>
>> No, it's not too late for 1.2.
>>
>> The release process is pretty clear.  Major features needed to be posted
>> before August 1st.  The late to get non-bug fixes in is today.
>>
>> This is not a major feature but more importantly, has gone through a few
>> revisions and has gotten positive review comments.
>>
>> So let's not just go around declaring things as being "too late".  If
>> something needs more review or hasn't gotten adequate review, it's
>> perfectly acceptable to point that out.  But please don't just Nack and
>> say it's too late.
>>
>>> Agree. I also think we should follow up Paul Brook's suggestion
>>> that we don't need to have any kind of "default sd card" flag
>>> at all. Floppy is weird because we don't properly separate out
>>> the drive and the controller, right? Not sure about cdrom...
>>
>> This is a valid critique and suggests that more review is needed.
>> Given that, I won't pick this up today.  But let's not throw around
>> Nacks without justification.
>
> Paul's idea is worth pursuing.  But I don't think we should reject a
> improvement we can have now just we can imagine an even nicer
> improvement we may have some day.  Taking the former now doesn't make
> the latter any harder.

If doing it a different way means touching 50 files again, then it's
best not to rush into that.  There is something to be said to for
avoiding unnecessary churn.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-15 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-15 19:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 00/27] Suppress unused default drives Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 01/27] puv3: Require -kernel Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 02/27] leon mips_fulong2e: Give QEMUMachine internal linkage Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 03/27] hw: Make default drives opt-in instead of opt-out for boards Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 04/27] alpha_dp264: Suppress unused default drives Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 05/27] nseries palm spitz: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 06/27] highbank: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 07/27] integratorcp, realview, stellaris, versatilepb: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 08/27] omap_sx1: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 09/27] kzm: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 10/27] musicpal: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 11/27] exynos4: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 12/27] xilinx-zynq: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-17  4:55   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 13/27] collie gumstix mainstone tosa vexpress z2: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 14/27] axis-dev88: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 15/27] pc xen: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 16/27] lm32: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 17/27] m68k: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 18/27] microblaze: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-17  4:54   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 19/27] mips_jazz: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 20/27] mips_malta mips_r4k: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 21/27] mips_fulong2e, mips_mipssim: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 22/27] or32-sim: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 23/27] ppc: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 24/27] sh4: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 25/27] sparc: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 26/27] unicore32: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 27/27] xtensa: " Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 19:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 for-1.2 00/27] " Alexander Graf
2012-08-15 19:36   ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-15 19:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-15 20:11       ` Alexander Graf
2012-08-15 20:30       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 20:48         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-08-15 21:31           ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 21:34             ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-15 20:31       ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-15 20:57         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-15 21:04           ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-16 12:01     ` Peter Maydell

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