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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Leonardo Bras" <leobras@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P.Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>, "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 4/6] migration: Deprecate -incoming <uri>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 12:01:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfaj7r3g.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59f958ac-807d-e940-e5de-8109de62eb8c@redhat.com> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2023 11:45:28 +0200")

Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 6/22/23 10:52, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> User friendliness.
>> The problem is that if you use more than two channels with multifd, on
>> the incoming side, you need to do:
>
> You're sacrificing user-friendliness for the 99.99% that don't use
> multifd, for an error (i.e. it's not even fixing the issue) for the
> 0.01% that use multifd.  That's not user-friendly.

You are forgeting of the 0.01% that uses postocopy preempt (that is easy
just changing the default value to 2), and the 0.0000001% that uses
compression (they have exactly the same problem with compress_threads,
compress_zlib, etc).

>> - migrate_set_parameter multifd-channels 16
>> - migrate_incoming <uri>
>> 
>>> The issue is not how many features the command line has, but how
>>> they're implemented.
>> Or if they are confusing for the user?
>
> Anyone using multifd is not a typical user anyway.

>>> If they're just QMP wrappers and as such they're self-contained in
>>> softmmu/vl.c, that's fine.
>>>
>>> In fact, even for parameters, we could use keyval to parse "-incoming"
>> What is keyval?
>
> util/keyval.c and include/qemu/keyval.h.  It parses a list of
> key=value pairs into a QDict.  Once you have removed the "source" key
> from the QDict you can use a visitor to parse the rest into a
> MigrateSetParameters.  See the handling of QEMU_OPTION_audio, it could
> be something like
>
>
>             case QEMU_OPTION_incoing: {
>                 Visitor *v;
>                 MigrateSetParameters *incoming_params = NULL;
>                 QDict *dict = keyval_parse(optarg, "source", NULL,
>                 &error_fatal);
>
>                 if (incoming) {
>                     if (qdict_haskey(dict, "source")) {
>                         error_setg(&error_fatal, "Parameter 'source'
>                         is duplicate");
>                     }
>                 } else {
>                     if (!qdict_haskey(dict, "source")) {
>                         error_setg(&error_fatal, "Parameter 'source'
>                         is missing");
>                     }
>                     runstate_set(RUN_STATE_INMIGRATE);
>                     incoming = g_strdup(qdict_get_str(dict, "source"));
>                     qdict_del(dict, "source");
>                 }
>
>                 v = qobject_input_visitor_new_keyval(QOBJECT(dict));
>                 qobject_unref(dict);
>                 visit_type_MigrateSetParameters(v, NULL,
>                 &incoming_params, &error_fatal);
>                 visit_free(v);
>                 qmp_migration_set_parameters(incoming_params,
>                 &error_fatal);
>                 qapi_free_MigrateSetParameters(incoming_params);
>             }
>
>
> For example "-incoming [source=]tcp:foo,multifd-channels=16" would
> desugar to
>
>   migrate_set_parameter multifd-channels 16
>   migrate_incoming tcp:foo
>
> The only incompatibility is for people who are using "," in an URI,
> which is rare and only an issue for the "exec" protocol.

Aha, that makes sense.  And will allow us to deprecate/remove the
--global migration.* stuff.

Thanks very much.

See why this was an RFC O:-)

Later, Juan.

>
> Paolo
>
>>> and
>>> set the parameters in the same place as above.  That would remove the need
>>> for "-global migration".
>> Could you elaborate?
>
>
>
>> The other option that I can think of is changing the error messages for
>> migrate_check_parameters() and give instructions that you can't set
>> multifd channels once that you have started incoming migration.
>> Explaining there to use migrate_incoming command?
>> Later, Juan.
>> 



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-22 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12 19:33 [RFC 0/6] Migration deprecated parts Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 1/6] migration: skipped field is really obsolete Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:01   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 17:49     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 2/6] migration: migrate 'inc' command option is deprecated Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:05   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 18:11     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 3/6] migration: migrate 'blk' " Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:06   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 18:12     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 4/6] migration: Deprecate -incoming <uri> Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:41   ` Peter Xu
2023-06-12 20:51     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 21:19       ` Peter Xu
2023-06-20 12:13         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 19:34         ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-20 12:10       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-20 14:45         ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22  8:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22  8:52         ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22  9:22           ` Thomas Huth
2023-06-22 15:25             ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22 19:37               ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22  9:45           ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22 10:01             ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2023-06-22 15:24               ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22 16:03                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22  9:59           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 15:54             ` Peter Xu
2023-06-22 16:33               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 19:20                 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-23  7:17                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-23 14:34                     ` Peter Xu
2023-06-23  8:23               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-23 14:51                 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-23 15:03                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-21  7:08   ` Thomas Huth
2023-06-22  2:22     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-22  8:30     ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-06-22 18:12   ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 5/6] migration: Deprecate block migration Juan Quintela
2023-06-21 11:45   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-22 18:17     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-12 19:33 ` [RFC 6/6] migration: Deprecated old compression method Juan Quintela
2023-06-21  7:14   ` Thomas Huth
2023-06-22 19:21     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-21 10:31   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-06-22 19:32     ` Juan Quintela
2023-06-13  7:48 ` [RFC 0/6] Migration deprecated parts Jiri Denemark

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