From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83FC7C4332F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p56tf-0006z0-PE; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:08:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p56tb-0006xR-Rx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:08:42 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p56tZ-0001P4-Lz for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:08:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1670944114; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=lAvikJkc8fZb1oKsfCS4bbJOyfk/BVTnF4sAy2AAs58=; b=MkXj4ABOgq1FTGHeODBrXrnbXYEbf/Ln+N4HtAhl4ZGVMVTdRZY2HOUd2KxlF//qe3MqvB ZVzTumeOz4NmFeZCEK2qsDzCDKXoY/dSlpExIbMEqpZyx4Q5p6nQTEH0t2b3BQgunHXuxJ 2RO8mamTIScyKna4yF65k8oVeuvij/s= Received: from mail-wm1-f72.google.com (mail-wm1-f72.google.com [209.85.128.72]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id us-mta-80-uYSoMewaNC6JgZVAoA78Yw-1; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:08:33 -0500 X-MC-Unique: uYSoMewaNC6JgZVAoA78Yw-1 Received: by mail-wm1-f72.google.com with SMTP id i132-20020a1c3b8a000000b003d0f49bc21bso5772705wma.6 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 07:08:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:reply-to :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lAvikJkc8fZb1oKsfCS4bbJOyfk/BVTnF4sAy2AAs58=; b=jlU0ga9fE6SUo5fdC4uMmh71lFZUiyNbGTZrF3HfNKRcdVL65tRur4OgLE38gYgjuE Mhj0DAtGY4yYh0hGfog+9cptJVC22CX3UUSYry/4NOG/rIwdFsKc60n+9q7b77UKUAwB sUx4wSK6nv2hlyIE8/DpnTZ4uMExl6YagpyhuHGfrmMWk9TjGrc7RjTsdvEX+9x1aHcR WwVbGiRWSoLo+WKJ02iZq2ksJki6xwq2INwEok0nb17mh1D2Zos+A/5yY65Nc9eTt8jT dHPd2bz92u8amqR3OvWEWlBmi2NbmKAmG67X8IAwJrsxekODLVio2TbJe2T+Jbe7RiBm s29A== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkcH3R48KXy8kqePNa0SFsIaPc0p8J3msnBBCcFZR54Yso+DWa9 U6VA99XW2gTYpsEaAmmqHPMGddDVCXh0yV8gnbytn17+mYWI/dT01z7fRgvckVUsQWMWXB64zN8 GSsoB9grViScd4F0= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:ca49:0:b0:3cf:8b22:76bc with SMTP id m9-20020a7bca49000000b003cf8b2276bcmr16173141wml.28.1670944110518; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 07:08:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6+gcZBFHc01vh0y130nxRwzfCWtYMoc4mWSDCvIoAyCGQYCk1CS6yedrsMt5WOAOoETunp6w== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:ca49:0:b0:3cf:8b22:76bc with SMTP id m9-20020a7bca49000000b003cf8b2276bcmr16173086wml.28.1670944110202; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 07:08:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from redhat.com ([137.101.155.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o25-20020a05600c511900b003c6f8d30e40sm14565959wms.31.2022.12.13.07.08.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Dec 2022 07:08:29 -0800 (PST) From: Juan Quintela To: Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= Cc: Daniel P. =?utf-8?Q?Berrang=C3=A9?= , John Snow , Mark Burton , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Paolo Bonzini , Markus Armbruster , Eduardo Habkost , "Edgar E. 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Lunev" , Cleber Rosa , Stefan Hajnoczi , Eduardo Habkost , qemu-devel , =?utf-8?Q?Ma?= =?utf-8?Q?rc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau , Dominik Csapak , Christophe de Dinechin , Gerd Hoffmann , Kashyap Chamarthy , Mark Cave-Ayland , Jagannathan Raman , Elena Ufimtseva , John G Johnson , Dongli Zhang , afaerber@suse.de, andrea.arcangeli@redhat.com, bazulay@redhat.com, bbauman@redhat.com, cjia@nvidia.com, cw@f00f.org, digitaleric@google.com, dustin.kirkland@canonical.com, Eric Blake , Eric Auger , felipe@nutanix.com, iggy@theiggy.com, Jan Kiszka , Jason Gunthorpe , jidong.xiao@gmail.com, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Joao Martins , mburton@qti.qualcom.com, mdean@redhat.com, mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com, z.huo@139.com, zwu.kernel@gmail.com, Laurent Vivier Subject: Re: Single system binary & Dynamic machine model (KVM developers conference call 2022-12-13) In-Reply-To: <1ac96aab-c5c4-b539-956c-d2923e6d8602@linaro.org> ("Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9=22's?= message of "Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:08:53 +0100") References: <936e1ac4-cef8-08b4-c688-e5b1e057208b@linaro.org> <1ac96aab-c5c4-b539-956c-d2923e6d8602@linaro.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:08:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87sfhjxrwz.fsf@secure.mitica> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=quintela@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: quintela@redhat.com Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: > On 12/12/22 00:41, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: >> Hi, >> In the last years we had few discussions on "simplifying" QEMU >> (system emulation / virtualization), in particular for the >> "management layer". >> Some of us are interested in having QEMU able to dynamically create >> machine models. Mark Burton's current approach is via a Python script >> which generates QMP commands. This is just another case of "management >> layer". >> Various problems have been raised regarding the current limitations >> of >> QEMU's APIs. We'd like to remember / get a broader idea on these limits >> and look at some ideas / proposals which have been discussed / posted >> on this list. >> Feel free to complete your thoughts on this public etherpad: >> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qemu-emulation-bof%402022-12-13 >> Topic I remember which can be good starters: >> - Current limitations of QAPI (& QMP) model (Markus Armbruster) >> - Adding a new qemu-runtime-$TARGET / QMP-only binary without >> today's >> =C2=A0 limitations (Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 & Paolo Bonzini) >> - Problem with x-exit-preconfig, reworking MachinePhaseInit state >> =C2=A0 machine (Paolo Bonzini) >> Markus / Daniel / Paolo expressed their ideas on the list (the >> historical threads are referenced in the etherpad) so reading the >> relevant threads before the call will help to get in the topic. >> These people don't have to be in the call, but if they can attend >> that would be very nice :) >> The call will be Tuesday, December 13 at 3pm CET on this Bluejeans >> link: >> http://bluejeans.com/quintela > We moved the call here: > > https://teams.microsoft.com/_#/pre-join-calling/19:meeting_MjU2NDhkOGYtOG= Y5ZC00MzRjLWJjNjgtYWI2ODQxZGExMWNj@thread.v2 Hi First of all I am sorry that my calendar/alarm system failed me. Once thold that, I have been unable to go from that link to a meet room: - on android phone with chrome - on android phone with firefox - on linux host with firefox (and teams installed) - on linux host with chrome (and teams installed) As everybody says, it got going for indirection to indirection and at the end (if lucky) I ended on the teams app without a room name/id. Later, Juan.