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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, markver@us.ibm.com,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Xie Yongji <xieyongji@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] virtio: write back features before verify
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 12:13:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfxezcjp.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211004151408-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Mon, Oct 04 2021, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 05:50:44PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 04 2021, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 04:33:21PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 04 2021, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 02:19:55PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> [cc:qemu-devel]
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On Sat, Oct 02 2021, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > ok so that's a QEMU bug. Any virtio 1.0 and up
>> >> >> > compatible device must use LE.
>> >> >> > It can also present a legacy config space where the
>> >> >> > endian depends on the guest.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> So, how is the virtio core supposed to determine this? A
>> >> >> transport-specific callback?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd say a field in VirtIODevice is easiest.
>> >> 
>> >> The transport needs to set this as soon as it has figured out whether
>> >> we're using legacy or not.
>> >
>> > Basically on each device config access?
>> 
>> Prior to the first one, I think. It should not change again, should it?
>
> Well yes but we never prohibited someone from poking at both ..
> Doing it on each access means we don't have state to migrate.

Yes; if it isn't too high overhead, that's probably the safest way to
handle it.

>
>> >
>> >> I guess we also need to fence off any
>> >> accesses respectively error out the device if the driver tries any
>> >> read/write operations that would depend on that knowledge?
>> >> 
>> >> And using a field in VirtIODevice would probably need some care when
>> >> migrating. Hm...
>> >
>> > It's just a shorthand to minimize changes. No need to migrate I think.
>> 
>> If we migrate in from an older QEMU, we don't know whether we are
>> dealing with legacy or not, until feature negotiation is already
>> done... don't we have to ask the transport?
>
> Right but the only thing that can happen is config access.

Checking on each config space access would be enough then.

> Well and for legacy a kick I guess.

I think any driver that does something that is not config space access,
status access, or feature bit handling without VERSION_1 being set is
neccessarily legacy? Does that really need special handling?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-06 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <20210930130350.0cdc7c65.pasic@linux.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <87ilyi47wn.fsf@redhat.com>
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     [not found]         ` <87v92g3h9l.fsf@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <20211002082128-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
     [not found]             ` <20211004042323.730c6a5e.pasic@linux.ibm.com>
2021-10-04  9:07               ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] virtio: write back features before verify Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-05 10:06                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-05 10:43                 ` Halil Pasic
2021-10-05 11:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-05 11:13                   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-05 11:20                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-05 11:59                     ` Halil Pasic
2021-10-05 15:25                       ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found] ` <20210930070444-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20211001092125.64fef348.pasic@linux.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <20211002055605-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2021-10-04 12:19       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-04 13:11         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-04 14:33           ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-04 15:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-04 15:50               ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-04 19:17                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-06 10:13                   ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2021-10-06 12:15                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-05  7:25           ` Halil Pasic
2021-10-05  7:53             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-05 10:46               ` Halil Pasic
2021-10-05 11:11                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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