From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49688) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2LXr-0002Fj-Bj for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2LXp-0004CR-Ai for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:27 -0400 Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.139]:35963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2LXp-0004CJ-5s for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:25 -0400 Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:24 -0400 Received: from d01relay05.pok.ibm.com (d01relay05.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.237]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E5D6E8047 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by d01relay05.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r6PDPLXI168098 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:21 -0400 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r6PDPKrN001475 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:25:21 -0300 From: Anthony Liguori In-Reply-To: <51F0FD29.9010005@redhat.com> References: <1374501278-31549-1-git-send-email-pbonzini@redhat.com> <87ip02wqvn.fsf@codemonkey.ws> <1374729976.6142.61.camel@pasglop> <1374731256.6142.63.camel@pasglop> <51F0E47D.1060807@redhat.com> <1374742849.6142.72.camel@pasglop> <1374747835.6142.74.camel@pasglop> <51F0FD29.9010005@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:25:01 -0500 Message-ID: <87siz26ac2.fsf@codemonkey.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/28] Memory API for 1.6: fix I/O port endianness mess List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paolo Bonzini , Benjamin Herrenschmidt Cc: Peter Maydell , aik@ozlabs.ru, jan.kiszka@siemens.com, agraf@suse.de, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, hpoussin@reactos.org, aurelien@aurel32.net Paolo Bonzini writes: > Il 25/07/2013 12:23, Benjamin Herrenschmidt ha scritto: >> On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 10:38 +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: >>> On 25 July 2013 10:00, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >>>> That's fine, I know you can fix stuff :-) I'm just really annoyed that >>>> upstream qemu remained broken for so long (and still is) while the whole >>>> thing derailed into a mostly pointless discussion on endianness and >>>> nobody (including Alexey) hollered loud enough that the breakage was >>>> fairly extensive >>> >>> I think that for the minor architectures we just have to make >>> sure that we do yell loudly when things are broken, because >>> the nature of things is that people won't notice. Maybe we should >>> have a qemu-urgent list to parallel qemu-trivial for compile >>> fixes, reversions of bad breakage, etc, to try to keep them >>> out of the general noise ? >> >> Or I teach Alexey to yell louder (along with some French :-) >> >> Not sure if a mailing list is useful. A tag might be enough >> [REGRESSION] ? [URGENT] ? Those kind of subject tags tend to stand out >> pretty well on mailing lists. > > I've definitely seen them already in the past on qemu-devel, so I concur > that a mailing list is not useful. This is a technical problem, not a social one. One something is broken, it's a hell of a lot harder to fix than it is to prevent something from breaking in the first place. If you want to prevent minor architecture regressions, add unit tests. Regards, Anthony Liguori > > Paolo