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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
Cc: "Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] qdev: Report an error for machine without HotplugHandler
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:49:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttoc6ius.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68c2e155-0dc1-4566-853a-059e351e9649@daynix.com> (Akihiko Odaki's message of "Thu, 21 Dec 2023 15:36:32 +0900")

Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:

> On 2023/12/21 1:46, Zhao Liu wrote:
>> Hi Markus,
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:53:21AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:53:21 +0100
>>> From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] qdev: Report an error for machine without
>>>   HotplugHandler
>>>
>>> Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2023/12/18 23:02, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>> Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2023/12/11 15:51, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>>>> Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The HotplugHandler of the machine will be used when the parent bus does
>>>>>>>> not exist, but the machine may not have one. Report an error in such a
>>>>>>>> case instead of aborting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fixes: 7716b8ca74 ("qdev: HotplugHandler: Add support for unplugging BUS-less devices")
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have a reproducer for the crash?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Changes in v2:
>>>>>>>> - Fixed indention.
>>>>>>>> - Link to v1: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20231202-bus-v1-1-f7540e3a8d62@daynix.com
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>     system/qdev-monitor.c | 13 ++++++++++---
>>>>>>>>     1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/system/qdev-monitor.c b/system/qdev-monitor.c
>>>>>>>> index a13db763e5..5fe5d49c20 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/system/qdev-monitor.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/system/qdev-monitor.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -927,9 +927,16 @@ void qdev_unplug(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp)
>>>>>>>     void qdev_unplug(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp)
>>>>>>>     {
>>>>>>>         DeviceClass *dc = DEVICE_GET_CLASS(dev);
>>>>>>>         HotplugHandler *hotplug_ctrl;
>>>>>>>         HotplugHandlerClass *hdc;
>>>>>>>         Error *local_err = NULL;
>>>>>>>         if (qdev_unplug_blocked(dev, errp)) {
>>>>>>>             return;
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>         if (dev->parent_bus && !qbus_is_hotpluggable(dev->parent_bus)) {
>>>>>>>             error_setg(errp, QERR_BUS_NO_HOTPLUG, dev->parent_bus->name);
>>>>>>>             return;
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>         if (!dc->hotpluggable) {
>>>>>>>             error_setg(errp, QERR_DEVICE_NO_HOTPLUG,
>>>>>>>                        object_get_typename(OBJECT(dev)));
>>>>>>>             return;
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>         if (!migration_is_idle() && !dev->allow_unplug_during_migration) {
>>>>>>>             error_setg(errp, "device_del not allowed while migrating");
>>>>>>>             return;
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        qdev_hot_removed = true;
>>>>>>>>           hotplug_ctrl = qdev_get_hotplug_handler(dev);
>>>>>>>> -    /* hotpluggable device MUST have HotplugHandler, if it doesn't
>>>>>>>> -     * then something is very wrong with it */
>>>>>>>> -    g_assert(hotplug_ctrl);
>>>>>>>> +    if (!hotplug_ctrl) {
>>>>>>>> +        /*
>>>>>>>> +         * hotpluggable bus MUST have HotplugHandler, if it doesn't
>>>>>>>> +         * then something is very wrong with it
>>>>>>>> +         */
>>>>>>>> +        assert(!dev->parent_bus);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +        error_setg(errp, "The machine does not support hotplugging for a device without parent bus");
>>>>>>>> +        return;
>>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Extended version of my question above: what are the devices where
>>>>>>> qdev_get_hotplug_handler(dev) returns null here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start a VM: qemu-system-aarch64 -M virt -nographic
>>>>>> Run the following on its HMP: device_del /machine/unattached/device[0]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It tries to unplug cortex-a15-arm-cpu and crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>> This device has no parent bus (dev->parent_bus is null), but is marked
>>>>> hot-pluggable (dc->hotpluggable is true).  Question for somebody
>>>>> familiar with the hot-plug machinery: is this sane?
>>>>
>>>> Setting hotpluggable false for each device without bus_type gives the same effect, but is error-prone.
>>>
>>> Having hotpluggable = true when the device cannot be hot-plugged is
>>> *wrong*.  You might be able to paper over the wrongness so the code
>>> works anyway, but nothing good can come out of lying to developers
>>> trying to understand how the code works.
>>>
>>> Three ideas to avoid the lying:
>>>
>>> 1. default hotpluggable to bus_type != NULL.
>
> I don't have an idea to achieve that. Currently bus_type is set after hotpluggable.
>
>>>
>>> 2. assert(dc->bus_type || !dc->hotpluggable) in a suitable spot.
>
> It results in abortion and doesn't improve the situation.

Oh, it does!  The abort leads us to all the places where we currently
lie (by having dc->hotpluggable = true when it isn't), so we can fix
them.

>>> 3. Change the meaning of hotpluggable, and rename it to reflect its new
>>> meaning.  Requires a careful reading of its uses.  I wouldn't go there.
>
> I don't have an idea for such a naming.
>
> So I'm stuck with the current proposal. It suppresses abortion at least. Any alternative idea is welcome.
>
>>>
>> What about 4 (or maybe 3.1) - droping this hotpluggable flag and just use a
>> helper (like qbus) to check if device is hotpluggable?
>> This removes the confusion of that flag and also reduces the number of
>> configuration items for DeviceState that require developer attention.
>> A simple helper is as follows:
>
> Some devices simply doesn't support hotplugging even if the bus supports. virtio-gpu-pci doesn't support hotplugging because the display infrastructure cannot handle hotplugging, for example.
>
> Regards,
> Akihiko Odaki



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-21  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-10  5:34 [PATCH v2] qdev: Report an error for machine without HotplugHandler Akihiko Odaki
2023-12-11  6:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-12-13  9:50   ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-12-18 14:02     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-12-19 12:08       ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-12-20  7:53         ` Markus Armbruster
2023-12-20 16:46           ` Zhao Liu
2023-12-21  6:34             ` Markus Armbruster
2023-12-21  6:36             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-12-21  8:49               ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2023-12-21  9:36                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2024-02-18  5:47           ` Akihiko Odaki

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