From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] qom: Assert that objects being destroyed have no parent
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:15:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tuslsp3q.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62956652-6b89-1bc0-d816-e88f6282b9ee@redhat.com>
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> On 16/12/20 08:53, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>>
>> On the principle, I fully agree. But the risk is high to introduce
>> regression if objects are manipulated in strange ways.
>>
>> I remember I wanted object_unref() to automatically remove itself from
>> the parent when the last ref is dropped. I think there were similar
>> concerns.
>
> unref and unparent are two very different operations; the former means
> *I* am done with this object, the latter means *QEMU* is done with this
> object (even though there may be a few reference held, e.g. on the call
> stack or by RCU). Since object_unparent operates on global state, you
> can even call object_unparent if you don't own yourself a reference to
> the object and just got the pointer from the caller.
>
> While unref is a "mechanical" operation of dropping a reference and
> possibly freeing the object, unparent is an active operation that
> includes for example dropping reference cycles or in general detaching
> from other places that are known to hold references to this object.
This all sounds like good material for a QOM object lifetime section of
docs/devel/qom.rst
>
> This is not a concept that is specific to QEMU, I think I read somewhere
> that LibreOffice's UI library does something similar, calling it "dispose".
>
> Paolo
--
Alex Bennée
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-16 16:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-15 22:41 [PATCH 0/2] Fix test-char reference counting bug Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-15 22:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] test-char: Destroy chardev correctly at char_file_test_internal() Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-16 7:45 ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-12-16 16:50 ` Alex Bennée
2020-12-15 22:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] qom: Assert that objects being destroyed have no parent Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-16 7:53 ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-12-16 9:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-12-16 13:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-16 16:15 ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2020-12-16 16:52 ` Alex Bennée
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