From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"open list:All patches CC here" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 14/14] target-i386: Generate fences for x86
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:25:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twgmqu0r.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhHMCA0_UgwVyx2DdhrAmEpXsOPs5TaqXcuJW26LdAxngeHZg@mail.gmail.com>
Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On 21 June 2016 at 18:28, Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Reg. the second point, I did consider this situation of running x86 on
>>> ARM where such barriers are necessary for correctness. But, I am
>>> really apprehensive of the cost it will impose. I am not sure if there
>>> are any alternative solutions to avoid generating barriers for each
>>> memory operation, but it would be great if we could reduce them.
>>
>> I vaguely recall an idea that you could avoid needing
>> explicit barriers by turning all the guest load/stores into
>> host load-acquire/store-release, but I have no idea whether
>> that's (a) actually true (b) any better than piles of
>> explicit barriers.
>
> Yes, this is true for ARMv8(not sure about ia64). The
> load-acquire/store-release operations are sequentially consistent to
> each other. But this does not work for ARMv7 and as you said... I
> think the cost here too is really prohibitive.
If the cost ends up being too prohibitive (as in -smp N runs slower and
slower) then we may just keep -accel tcg,thread=single the default for
that combination.
We need some hard numbers either way.
--
Alex Bennée
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 01/14] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier Pranith Kumar
2016-06-20 21:21 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-21 14:52 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 15:09 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-21 18:06 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 15:50 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-21 7:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 18:04 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-21 18:09 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 18:23 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-21 19:40 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 02/14] tcg/i386: Add support for fence Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 16:25 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-22 16:49 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-22 18:18 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 03/14] tcg/aarch64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-23 16:18 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 16:50 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-23 19:58 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 04/14] tcg/arm: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-23 16:30 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 16:49 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 05/14] tcg/ia64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 06/14] tcg/mips: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 07/14] tcg/ppc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 19:50 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-22 20:21 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-22 20:27 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-23 14:42 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 08/14] tcg/s390: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 7:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 09/14] tcg/sparc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 19:56 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 10/14] tcg/tci: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 19:57 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-22 20:25 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-22 20:28 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 11/14] target-arm: Generate fences in ARMv7 frontend Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 12/14] target-alpha: Generate fence op Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 13/14] aarch64: Generate fences for aarch64 Pranith Kumar
2016-06-24 16:17 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 14/14] target-i386: Generate fences for x86 Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 5:48 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-20 15:05 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 7:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 15:57 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-21 16:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 16:23 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-21 16:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 17:28 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 17:54 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-21 18:03 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 18:25 ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2016-06-22 11:18 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 00/14] tcg: Add fence gen support Pranith Kumar
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