From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: Questionable aspects of QEMU Error's design
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:01:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9mje24d.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e980477d-3951-2a2b-fa38-dee8e1895019@virtuozzo.com>
Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com> writes:
> 01.04.2020 12:02, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> QEMU's Error was patterned after GLib's GError. Differences include:
>> * &error_fatal, &error_abort for convenience
>> * Error can optionally store hints
>> * Pointlessly different names: error_prepend() vs. g_error_prefix()
>> and
>> so forth *shrug*
>> * Propagating errors
>> Thanks to Vladimir, we'll soon have "auto propagation", which is
>> less
>> verbose and less error-prone.
>> * Accumulating errors
>> error_propagate() permits it, g_propagate_error() does not[*].
>> I believe this feature is used rarely. Perhaps we'd be better
>> off
>> without it. The problem is identifying its uses. If I remember
>> correctly, Vladimir struggled with that for his "auto propagation"
>> work.
>> Perhaps "auto propagation" will reduce the number of manual
>> error_propagate() to the point where we can identify accumulations.
>> Removing the feature would become feasible then.
>> * Distinguishing different errors
>> Where Error has ErrorClass, GError has Gquark domain, gint code.
>> Use
>> of ErrorClass other than ERROR_CLASS_GENERIC_ERROR is strongly
>> discouraged. When we need callers to distinguish errors, we return
>> suitable error codes separately.
>> * Return value conventions
>> Common: non-void functions return a distinct error value on
>> failure
>> when such a value can be defined. Patterns:
>> - Functions returning non-null pointers on success return null
>> pointer
>> on failure.
>> - Functions returning non-negative integers on success return a
>> negative error code on failure.
>> Different: GLib discourages void functions, because these lead to
>> awkward error checking code. We have tons of them, and tons of
>> awkward error checking code:
>> Error *err = NULL;
>> frobnicate(arg, &err);
>> if (err) {
>> ... recover ...
>> error_propagate(errp, err);
>> }
>> instead of
>> if (!frobnicate(arg, errp))
>> ... recover ...
>> }
>> Can also lead to pointless creation of Error objects.
>> I consider this a design mistake. Can we still fix it? We have
>> more
>> than 2000 void functions taking an Error ** parameter...
>> Transforming code that receives and checks for errors with
>> Coccinelle
>> shouldn't be hard. Transforming code that returns errors seems more
>> difficult. We need to transform explicit and implicit return to
>> either return true or return false, depending on what we did to the
>> @errp parameter on the way to the return. Hmm.
>>
>> [*] According to documentation; the code merely calls g_warning() then,
>> in typical GLib fashion.
>>
>
>
> Side question:
>
> Can we somehow implement a possibility to reliably identify file and line number
> where error is set by error message?
>
> It's where debug of error-bugs always starts: try to imagine which parts of the error
> message are "%s", and how to grep for it in the code, keeping in mind also,
> that error massage may be split into several lines..
>
> Put file:line into each error? Seems too noisy for users.. A lot of errors are not
> bugs: use do something wrong and see the error, and understands what he is doing
> wrong.. It's not usual practice to print file:line into each message
> for user.
I tend to use __func__ for these things as the result is usually easily
grep-able.
>
>
> But what if we do some kind of mapping file:line <-> error code, so user will see
> something like:
>
>
> Error 12345: Device drive-scsi0-0-0-0 is not found
>
> ....
>
> Hmm, maybe, just add one more argument to error_setg:
>
> error_setg(errp, 12345, "Device %s is not found", device_name);
>
> - it's enough grep-able.
--
Alex Bennée
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-01 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-01 9:02 Questionable aspects of QEMU Error's design Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 12:10 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 12:14 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 14:01 ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2020-04-01 15:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 15:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 12:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-01 12:47 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 15:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 20:15 ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-02 5:31 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 9:36 ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-04-02 14:11 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 14:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 15:28 ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-04-03 7:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 5:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 6:11 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 8:11 ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-02 8:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-02 8:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 14:35 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 15:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 17:17 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03 7:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 18:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-02 8:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-02 9:19 ` Alex Bennée
2020-04-02 14:33 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-04 7:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-04 10:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-06 14:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-04-06 14:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-04-06 14:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-27 15:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-28 5:20 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-14 7:59 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-15 4:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-03 7:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-03 9:07 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-07-03 12:21 ` Markus Armbruster
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