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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] hmp: Add info commands for preconfig
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:41:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vaatomwa.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180607170847.5982cda8@redhat.com> (Igor Mammedov's message of "Thu, 7 Jun 2018 17:08:47 +0200")

Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:22:34 +0200
> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 01:26:34PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:  
>> >> From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
>> >> 
>> >> Allow a bunch of the info commands to be used in preconfig.
>> >> Could probably add most of them.  
>> >
>> > I guess some of them may not work yet during preconfig.  E.g.:
>> >
>> > $ ./x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 -preconfig -monitor stdio
>> > QEMU 2.12.50 monitor - type 'help' for more information
>> > (qemu) info mtree
>> > address-space: memory
>> >   0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): system
>> >
>> > address-space: I/O
>> >   0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): io
>> >
>> > But it's fine to enable that I guess.
>> >
>> > (Which "info" command would you want to use during preconfig?)
>> >  
>> >> 
>> >> Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>  
>> >
>> > Reviewed-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>  
>> 
>> The reason for having -preconfig is us despairing of making -S do the
>> right thing.  We'd have to *understand* the tangled mess that is our
>> startup, and rearrange it so QMP becomes available early enough for
>> configuring NUMA (and other things), yet late enough for everything to
>> work.
> We solve concrete NUMA problem at -S time as was demonstrated by thread:
> "RFC v2 0/4] enable numa configuration before machine  is running from HMP/QMP"
> were pros and cons are were summarized. But that won't scale to other things.
>  
>> -preconfig is a cheap hack to avoid this headache, by bypassing almost
>> all of "everything".
> hack should allow to move configuration steps to early stage one by one
> until the point we could obsolete -S (from configuration point)
> without breaking current -S users and clean up start up mess in process.

Sometimes a hack is the only practical way forward.

>> Now you bring back some of "everything".  Dangerous.  You better show it
>> actually works.  Until you do:
> Tested v2, works as expected so far.

See my reply to Dave.

>> 
>> NAK
>> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-08  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-05 12:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Reenable hmp for preconfig mode Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-05 12:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] hmp: Add flag for preconfig commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-07  8:50   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 12:14   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-07 12:18     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-05 12:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] hmp: Allow help on " Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-07  8:51   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 12:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] hmp: Restrict auto-complete in preconfig Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-07  8:52   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 12:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] hmp: Add info commands for preconfig Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-07  8:49   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 12:22     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-07 13:45       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-07 15:12         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-07 15:28           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-08  5:56             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-08  8:18               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-08  9:30                 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-08 16:51                 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-08 17:18                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-07 15:08       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-08  5:41         ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2018-06-07  9:39   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05 12:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] hmp: add exit_preconfig Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-07  8:53   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 12:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] hmp: Allow HMP in preconfig state again Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-06-07  8:56   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07  8:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Reenable hmp for preconfig mode Peter Xu
2018-06-07  9:00   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-07  9:05     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07  9:45   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-07 10:02     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07  9:48 ` Igor Mammedov

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