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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] docs: clarify absence of set_features in vhost-user
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:19:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2b8ecwo.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg4a1dzl.fsf@linaro.org>


Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> writes:

> Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is> writes:
>
>> The previous wording was (at least to me) ambiguous about whether a
>> backend should enable features immediately after they were set using
>> VHOST_USER_SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES, or wait for support for protocol
>> features to be acknowledged if it hasn't been yet before enabling
>> those features.
>>
>> This patch attempts to make it clearer that
>> VHOST_USER_SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES should immediately enable features,
>> even if support for protocol features has not yet been acknowledged,
>> while still also making clear that the frontend SHOULD acknowledge
>> support for protocol features.
>>
>> Previous discussion begins here:
>> <https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/87sgd1ktx9.fsf@alyssa.is/>
>
> I totally missed this when I posted a similar attempt at clarification:
>
>   Subject: [PATCH v2] vhost-user.rst: add clarifying language about protocol negotiation
>   Date: Wed,  3 Mar 2021 14:50:11 +0000
>   Message-Id: <20210303145011.14547-1-alex.bennee@linaro.org>
>
>>
>> Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Alyssa Ross <hi@alyssa.is>
>> ---
>>  docs/interop/vhost-user.rst | 14 +++++++++-----
>>  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst b/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst
>> index d6085f7045..c42150331d 100644
>> --- a/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst
>> +++ b/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst
>> @@ -871,9 +871,9 @@ Master message types
>>    ``VHOST_USER_GET_FEATURES``.
>>  
>>  .. Note::
>> -   Slave that reported ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` must
>> -   support this message even before ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` was
>> -   called.
>> +   While QEMU should acknowledge ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``, a
>> +   backend must allow ``VHOST_USER_GET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` even if
>> +   ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` has not been acknowledged yet.
>>  
>>  ``VHOST_USER_SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``
>>    :id: 16
>> @@ -886,8 +886,12 @@ Master message types
>>    ``VHOST_USER_GET_FEATURES``.
>>  
>>  .. Note::
>> -   Slave that reported ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` must support
>> -   this message even before ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` was called.
>> +   While QEMU should acknowledge ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``, a
>> +   backend must allow ``VHOST_USER_SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` even if
>> +   ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` has not been acknowledged yet.
>> +   The backend must not wait for ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` before
>> +   enabling protocol features requested with
>> +   ``VHOST_USER_SET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``.
>
> I think this is perfectly fine clarification although I think there
> might be a patch in flight which changes some of the master slave
> terminology so with that resolved:
>
> Reviewed-by: Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
>
> However there is still the edge case of what happens after the vhost
> pair have negotiated protocol features like REPLY_ACK should
> VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES still be acknowledged by
> VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES.
>
> Stefan's proposed wording which I incorporated in my patch made it clear
> that VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is never exposed to the guest by the
> VMM due to it's UNUSED status. I would just like it explicit if it needs
> to be preserved between the two sides of the VHOST_USER_*_FEATURES for
> the negotiated protocol features to remain valid.
>
> Perhaps you could incorporate some wording for that?
>
>>  
>>  ``VHOST_USER_SET_OWNER``
>>    :id: 3

General ping to the vhost-user spec maintainers. This was also mentioned
while merging:

  https://github.com/rust-vmm/vhost/pull/24

-- 
Alex Bennée


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-25 14:48 [PATCH RESEND] docs: clarify absence of set_features in vhost-user Alyssa Ross
2021-04-01 10:30 ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-17 15:19   ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2021-06-22 10:13     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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