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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: benoit.hudzia@gmail.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, owasserm@redhat.com, stefanha@gmail.com,
	t.hirofuchi@aist.go.jp, dlaor@redhat.com,
	satoshi.itoh@aist.go.jp, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp,
	Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/41] postcopy live migration
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:07:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zk85siv9.fsf@elfo.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FD1D2B1.2080108@redhat.com> (Avi Kivity's message of "Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:23:45 +0300")

Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 01:16 PM, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Once told that, we need to measure what is the time of an async page
>> fault over the network.  If it is too high, post copy just don't work.
>>
>> And no, I haven't seen any measurement that told us that this is going
>> to be fast enough, but there is always hope.
>
> At 10Gb/sec, the time to transfer one page is 4 microseconds.  At
> 40Gb/sec this drops to a microsecond, plus the latency.  This is on par
> with the time to handle a write protection fault that precopy uses.  But
> this can *only* be achieved with RDMA, otherwise the overhead of
> messaging and copying will dominate.
>
> Note this does not mean we should postpone merging until RDMA support is
> ready.  However we need to make sure the kernel interface is RDMA friendly.

Fully agree here.  I always thought that postcopy will work with RDMA or
something like that, any other thing would just add too much latency.

Later, Juan.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-14 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-04  9:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/41] postcopy live migration Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/41] arch_init: export sort_ram_list() and ram_save_block() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/41] arch_init: export RAM_SAVE_xxx flags for postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/41] arch_init/ram_save: introduce constant for ram save version = 4 Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/41] arch_init: refactor host_from_stream_offset() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/41] arch_init/ram_save_live: factor out RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MEM_SIZE case Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/41] arch_init: refactor ram_save_block() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/41] arch_init/ram_save_live: factor out ram_save_limit Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/41] arch_init/ram_load: refactor ram_load Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/41] arch_init: introduce helper function to find ram block with id string Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/41] arch_init: simplify a bit by ram_find_block() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/41] arch_init: factor out counting transferred bytes Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/41] arch_init: factor out setting last_block, last_offset Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/41] exec.c: factor out qemu_get_ram_ptr() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/41] exec.c: export last_ram_offset() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/41] savevm: export qemu_peek_buffer, qemu_peek_byte, qemu_file_skip Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/41] savevm: qemu_pending_size() to return pending buffered size Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/41] savevm, buffered_file: introduce method to drain buffer of buffered file Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/41] QEMUFile: add qemu_file_fd() for later use Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/41] savevm/QEMUFile: drop qemu_stdio_fd Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/41] savevm/QEMUFileSocket: drop duplicated member fd Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/41] savevm: rename QEMUFileSocket to QEMUFileFD, socket_close to fd_close Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/41] savevm/QEMUFile: introduce qemu_fopen_fd Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/41] migration.c: remove redundant line in migrate_init() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/41] migration: export migrate_fd_completed() and migrate_fd_cleanup() Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/41] migration: factor out parameters into MigrationParams Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/41] buffered_file: factor out buffer management logic Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/41] buffered_file: Introduce QEMUFileNonblock for nonblock write Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/41] buffered_file: add qemu_file to read/write to buffer in memory Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/41] umem.h: import Linux umem.h Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 30/41] update-linux-headers.sh: teach umem.h to update-linux-headers.sh Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 31/41] configure: add CONFIG_POSTCOPY option Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 32/41] savevm: add new section that is used by postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 33/41] postcopy: introduce -postcopy and -postcopy-flags option Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-08 10:52   ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-08 16:07     ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 34/41] postcopy outgoing: add -p and -n option to migrate command Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 35/41] postcopy: introduce helper functions for postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-14 21:34   ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-16  9:48     ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-16 13:19       ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 36/41] postcopy: implement incoming part of postcopy live migration Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-14 21:56   ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-14 21:58   ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 37/41] postcopy: implement outgoing " Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-14 22:12   ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 38/41] postcopy/outgoing: add forward, backward option to specify the size of prefault Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 39/41] postcopy/outgoing: implement prefault Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 40/41] migrate: add -m (movebg) option to migrate command Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 41/41] migration/postcopy: add movebg mode Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-04 12:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/41] postcopy live migration Anthony Liguori
2012-06-04 13:38   ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-06-05 11:23     ` Dor Laor
2012-06-07  7:46   ` Orit Wasserman
2012-06-08 10:16   ` Juan Quintela
2012-06-08 10:23     ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 21:07       ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2012-06-14 22:18 ` Juan Quintela

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