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From: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
To: Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Andrew Melnychenko <andrew@daynix.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 11/21] virtio-net: Return an error when vhost cannot enable RSS
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 22:14:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8880b6f9-f556-46f7-a191-eeec0fe208b0@daynix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOEp5Oern10jW8Pi-_mceU_ZJVD=a1f3tW8rB2O4efLX45-nvw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2023/10/30 21:51, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 2:21 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com 
> <mailto:akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 2023/10/30 21:14, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 7:14 AM Akihiko Odaki
>     <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com <mailto:akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
>      > <mailto:akihiko.odaki@daynix.com
>     <mailto:akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     vhost requires eBPF for RSS. When eBPF is not available,
>     virtio-net
>      >     implicitly disables RSS even if the user explicitly requests
>     it. Return
>      >     an error instead of implicitly disabling RSS if RSS is
>     requested but not
>      >     available.
>      >
>      >
>      > I think that suggesting RSS feature when in fact it is not
>     available is
>      > not a good idea, this rather desinforms the guest.
>      > Existing behavior (IMHO) makes more sense.
>      > We can extend this discussion if needed, of course.
> 
>     This change is not to advertise RSS when it's not available; it instead
>     reports an error to the user.
> 
>     For example, think of the following command line:
>     qemu-system-x86_64 -device virtio-net,rss=on,netdev=n -netdev user,id=n
> 
>     Before this change, it gives no error and the user will not know RSS is
>     not available. With this change it now gives an error as follows:
>     qemu-system-x86_64: -device virtio-net,rss=on,netdev=n: Can't load
>     eBPF RSS
> 
> 
> Does this mean failure to run QEMU if the RSS required in the command 
> line and EBPF can't be loaded?
> (for example if we run the system with kernel < 5.8)?
> I'm not sure this is user-friendly behavior...

This patch is wrong that it assumes software RSS is not enabled at all; 
I missed the vhost check before clearing VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS in 
virtio_net_get_features().

That said, I indeed intend to make it return a hard error for the case 
that RSS is requested for vhost but eBPF can't be loaded.

I believe the current behavior of implicitly disabling a feature 
explicitly requested by the user is not good, but we can still emit a 
warning instead of an error.

It's better to follow a convention common in QEMU but I see no 
documentation regarding this kind of situation. I know virtio-gpu gives 
an error in such a case but it's just one example.

I'd also like to ask Jason if we should have a warning or error. Perhaps 
we may better consult QOM maintainers too.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-30 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30  5:12 [PATCH v6 00/21] virtio-net RSS/hash report fixes and improvements Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] tap: Remove tap_probe_vnet_hdr_len() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] tap: Remove qemu_using_vnet_hdr() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] net: Move virtio-net header length assertion Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] net: Remove receive_raw() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] tap: Remove tap_receive() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 18:52   ` Zhang, Chen
2023-10-31  4:57     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] net: Remove flag propagation Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-10  7:35   ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2023-11-11 14:27     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-13  8:14       ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] tap: Shrink zeroed virtio-net header Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] virtio-net: Copy header only when necessary Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] virtio-net: Disable RSS on reset Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] virtio-net: Unify the logic to update NIC state for RSS Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] virtio-net: Return an error when vhost cannot enable RSS Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 12:14   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30 12:21     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 12:51       ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30 13:14         ` Akihiko Odaki [this message]
2023-11-01  4:19           ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  4:50             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-01  6:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  8:35                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-01  9:09                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  9:15                     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-02  9:09                       ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-02  9:33                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 10:20                           ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-02 11:26                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 12:00                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-02 13:18                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 14:56                             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-03  9:35                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-03  9:55                                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-03 13:14                                   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-11 15:28                                     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-13 11:44                                       ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-13 12:44                                         ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-13 17:26                                           ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-14  7:03                                             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-14 22:09                                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-15  6:09                                                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-16  5:14                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] virtio-net: Enable software RSS Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 12:42   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] virtio-net: Always set populate_hash Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 19:02   ` Zhang, Chen
2023-10-31  4:47     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] virtio-net: Do not write hashes to peer buffer Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] virtio-net: Do not clear VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-03 13:26   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] ebpf: Fix RSS error handling Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] ebpf: Use standard section name Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] ebpf: Simplify error handling Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] ebpf: Return 0 when configuration fails Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] ebpf: Refactor tun_rss_steering_prog() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] ebpf: Add a separate target for skeleton Akihiko Odaki

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