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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Fam Zheng <fam@euphon.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] aio-posix: call ->poll_end() when removing AioHandler
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 12:12:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a32f350-e69a-458a-be4e-1d3335e696c6@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e281e717-f416-47d2-aef4-d08b327122ef@redhat.com>

Am 22.01.24 um 18:52 schrieb Hanna Czenczek:
> On 22.01.24 18:41, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
>> On 05.01.24 15:30, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>>> Am 05.01.24 um 14:43 schrieb Fiona Ebner:
>>>> Am 03.01.24 um 14:35 schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>>>> On 1/3/24 12:40, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>>>>>> I'm happy to report that I cannot reproduce the CPU-usage-spike issue
>>>>>> with the patch, but I did run into an assertion failure when
>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>> verify that it fixes my original stuck-guest-IO issue. See below
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> backtrace [0]. Hanna wrote in
>>>>>> https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-3934
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it’s sufficient to simply call virtio_queue_notify_vq(vq)
>>>>>>> after the virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier(vq, ctx) call,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> both virtio-scsi’s and virtio-blk’s .handle_output() implementations
>>>>>>> acquire the device’s context, so this should be directly callable
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> any context.
>>>>>> I guess this is not true anymore now that the AioContext locking was
>>>>>> removed?
>>>>> Good point and, in fact, even before it was much safer to use
>>>>> virtio_queue_notify() instead.  Not only does it use the event
>>>>> notifier
>>>>> handler, but it also calls it in the right thread/AioContext just by
>>>>> doing event_notifier_set().
>>>>>
>>>> But with virtio_queue_notify() using the event notifier, the
>>>> CPU-usage-spike issue is present:
>>>>
>>>>>> Back to the CPU-usage-spike issue: I experimented around and it
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> seem to matter whether I notify the virt queue before or after
>>>>>> attaching
>>>>>> the notifiers. But there's another functional difference. My patch
>>>>>> called virtio_queue_notify() which contains this block:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      if (vq->host_notifier_enabled) {
>>>>>>>          event_notifier_set(&vq->host_notifier);
>>>>>>>      } else if (vq->handle_output) {
>>>>>>>          vq->handle_output(vdev, vq);
>>>>>> In my testing, the first branch was taken, calling
>>>>>> event_notifier_set().
>>>>>> Hanna's patch uses virtio_queue_notify_vq() and there,
>>>>>> vq->handle_output() will be called. That seems to be the relevant
>>>>>> difference regarding the CPU-usage-spike issue.
>>>> I should mention that this is with a VirtIO SCSI disk. I also attempted
>>>> to reproduce the CPU-usage-spike issue with a VirtIO block disk, but
>>>> didn't manage yet.
>>>>
>>>> What I noticed is that in virtio_queue_host_notifier_aio_poll(), one of
>>>> the queues (but only one) will always show as nonempty. And then,
>>>> run_poll_handlers_once() will always detect progress which explains the
>>>> CPU usage.
>>>>
>>>> The following shows
>>>> 1. vq address
>>>> 2. number of times vq was passed to
>>>> virtio_queue_host_notifier_aio_poll()
>>>> 3. number of times the result of virtio_queue_host_notifier_aio_poll()
>>>> was true for the vq
>>>>
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9c80 17162000 0
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9e48 17162000 6
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9ee0 17162000 0
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9d18 17162000 17162000
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9db0 17162000 0
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9f78 17162000 0
>>>> And for the problematic one, the reason it is seen as nonempty is:
>>>>
>>>>> 0x555fd93f9d18 shadow_avail_idx 8 last_avail_idx 0
>>> vring_avail_idx(vq) also gives 8 here. This is the vs->event_vq and
>>> s->events_dropped is false in my testing, so
>>> virtio_scsi_handle_event_vq() doesn't do anything.
>>>
>>>> Those values stay like this while the call counts above increase.
>>>>
>>>> So something going wrong with the indices when the event notifier is
>>>> set
>>>> from QEMU side (in the main thread)?
>>>>
>>>> The guest is Debian 12 with a 6.1 kernel.
>>
>> So, trying to figure out a new RFC version:
>>
>> About the stack trace you, Fiona, posted:  As far as I understand,
>> that happens because virtio_blk_drained_end() calling
>> virtio_queue_notify_vq() wasn’t safe after all, and instead we need to
>> use virtio_queue_notify().  Right?
>>

AFAICT, yes. In particular, after 4f36b13847 ("scsi: remove AioContext
locking"), the AioContext is not acquired by
virtio_scsi_handle_{cmd,ctrl,event} anymore.

>> However, you say using virtio_queue_notify() instead causes busy loops
>> of doing nothing in virtio-scsi (what you describe above). I mean,
>> better than a crash, but, you know. :)

Yes, that happens for me when using virtio_queue_notify(), i.e.

> diff --git a/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c b/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c
> index 690aceec45..8cdf04ac2d 100644
> --- a/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c
> +++ b/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c
> @@ -1166,7 +1166,11 @@ static void virtio_scsi_drained_end(SCSIBus *bus)
>  
>      for (uint32_t i = 0; i < total_queues; i++) {
>          VirtQueue *vq = virtio_get_queue(vdev, i);
> +        if (!virtio_queue_get_notification(vq)) {
> +            virtio_queue_set_notification(vq, true);
> +        }
>          virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier(vq, s->ctx);
> +        virtio_queue_notify(vdev, i);
>      }
>  }
>  


>>
>> I don’t know have any prior knowledge about the event handling,
>> unfortunately.  The fact that 8 buffers are available but we don’t use
>> any sounds OK to me; as far as I understand, we only use those buffers
>> if we have any events to push into them, so as long as we don’t, we
>> won’t.  Question is, should we not have its poll handler return false
>> if we don’t have any events (i.e. events_dropped is false)?  Would
>> that solve it?
> 
> Or actually, maybe we could just skip the virtio_queue_notify() call for
> the event vq?  I.e. have it be `if (vq !=
> VIRTIO_SCSI_COMMON(s)->event_vq) { virtio_queue_notify(vdev, i); }`?

That seems to avoid the CPU-usage-spike issue :)

> I wouldn’t like that very much, (a) because this would make it slightly
> cumbersome to put that into virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier*(),
> and (b) in case that does fix it, I do kind of feel like the real
> problem is that we use virtio_queue_host_notifier_aio_poll() for the
> event vq, which tells the polling code to poll whenever the vq is
> non-empty, but we (AFAIU) expect the event vq to be non-empty all the time.
> 

AFAIU, (at least in my testing) it's only non-empty after it was
notified via virtio_scsi_drained_end() once. But it's hard to tell,
because it seems that the poll callback is only called after the first
drain. I noticed poll_set_started() is not called, because
ctx->fdmon_ops->need_wait(ctx) was true, i.e. ctx->poll_disable_cnt was
positive (I'm using fdmon_poll). I then found this is because of the
notifier for the event vq, being attached with

> virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier_no_poll(vs->event_vq, s->ctx);

in virtio_scsi_dataplane_start(). But in virtio_scsi_drained_end() it is
attached with virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier() instead of the
_no_poll() variant. So that might be the actual issue here?

From a quick test, I cannot see the CPU-usage-spike issue with the
following either:

> diff --git a/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c b/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c
> index 690aceec45..ba1ab8e410 100644
> --- a/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c
> +++ b/hw/scsi/virtio-scsi.c
> @@ -1166,7 +1166,15 @@ static void virtio_scsi_drained_end(SCSIBus *bus)
>  
>      for (uint32_t i = 0; i < total_queues; i++) {
>          VirtQueue *vq = virtio_get_queue(vdev, i);
> -        virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier(vq, s->ctx);
> +        if (!virtio_queue_get_notification(vq)) {
> +            virtio_queue_set_notification(vq, true);
> +        }
> +        if (vq == VIRTIO_SCSI_COMMON(s)->event_vq) {
> +            virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier_no_poll(vq, s->ctx);
> +        } else {
> +            virtio_queue_aio_attach_host_notifier(vq, s->ctx);
> +        }
> +        virtio_queue_notify(vdev, i);
>      }
>  }

Best Regards,
Fiona



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-23 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-13 21:15 [RFC 0/3] aio-posix: call ->poll_end() when removing AioHandler Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-13 21:15 ` [RFC 1/3] aio-posix: run aio_set_fd_handler() in target AioContext Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-13 21:15 ` [RFC 2/3] aio: use counter instead of ctx->list_lock Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-13 21:15 ` [RFC 3/3] aio-posix: call ->poll_end() when removing AioHandler Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-13 21:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-14 20:12     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-14 20:39       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-18 14:27         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-13 21:52 ` [RFC 0/3] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-13 23:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-14 19:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-14 13:38 ` Fiona Ebner
2023-12-14 19:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-18 12:41     ` Fiona Ebner
2023-12-18 14:25       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-12-18 14:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-19  8:40         ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-02 15:24 ` Hanna Czenczek
2024-01-02 15:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-01-02 16:55     ` Hanna Czenczek
2024-01-03 11:40   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-03 13:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-01-05 13:43       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-05 14:30         ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-22 17:41           ` Hanna Czenczek
2024-01-22 17:52             ` Hanna Czenczek
2024-01-23 11:12               ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2024-01-23 11:25                 ` Hanna Czenczek
2024-01-23 11:15               ` Hanna Czenczek
2024-01-23 16:28   ` Hanna Czenczek

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