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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-rust@nongnu.org,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 07/18] rust: move Cell vmstate impl
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:35:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8a5741dc-7ce3-487d-8991-3e16a2327948@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMxuvayw7zLYB0OY3=rR5QeEUj_p_d443zJkcExDDb43ha+8XA@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/26/25 21:06, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com 
> <mailto:pbonzini@redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 8/26/25 16:04, marcandre.lureau@redhat.com
>     <mailto:marcandre.lureau@redhat.com> wrote:
>      > From: Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com
>     <mailto:marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>>
>      >
>      > This will allow to split vmstate to a standalone crate next.
> 
>     Can you explain why this is needed?  Could "migration" depend on "bql"
>     (or even, "bql" could stay in util), and keep the implementation of
>     VMState for cells, just like you do for Opaque?
> 
> 
> vmstate doesn't require bql. Why should we enforce it at rust level?

In some sense it does: pre_load/post_load/pre_save/post_save run inside 
the BQL.  It doesn't require it at the language level, but it does at 
the conceptual level.

Anyhow the code is fine, I just wanted to understand if there was 
something else.

> If we merge bql in util, then sure we can make vmstate keep the VMState 
> impl for BqlCells. But why should we do that? To save one crate? I think 
> it will more future proof if we have a lower-level util crate without 
> bql, and higher-level crates that rely on it. Perhaps "bql" should be 
> renamed though (qemu-loop/iothread or something?)

I'm okay with keeping bql separate, no problem. event_loop is also okay 
as the name.

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26 14:04 [RFC 00/18] rust: split qemu-api marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 01/18] rust: remove unused global qemu "allocator" marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 02/18] rust: add workspace authors marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 03/18] rust: split Rust-only "common" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 04/18] rust: split "util" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 05/18] rust: move vmstate_clock!() to qdev module marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 06/18] rust: move VMState handling to QOM module marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 07/18] rust: move Cell vmstate impl marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 18:28   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-26 19:06     ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-27  7:35       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 08/18] rust: split "migration" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 09/18] rust: split "bql" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 10/18] rust: split "qom" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-27  6:55   ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-27  8:57     ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-27  9:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 11/18] rust: split "chardev" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 12/18] rust: split "system" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 13/18] rust: split "hwcore" crate marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 14/18] rust: rename qemu_api_macros -> qemu_macros marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-26 20:30     ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 15/18] rust/hpet: drop now unneeded qemu_api dep marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 16/18] rust/pl011: drop dependency on qemu_api marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 17/18] rust: repurpose qemu_api -> tests marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:04 ` [RFC 18/18] docs: update rust.rst marcandre.lureau
2025-08-26 14:44 ` [RFC 00/18] rust: split qemu-api Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-26 14:55   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-26 15:22     ` Marc-André Lureau
2025-08-26 15:33     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-26 15:15   ` Marc-André Lureau

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