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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, den@openvz.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] block/qcow2: use compressed write cache
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:02:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b50ed82-5ed5-1d8e-2725-756665acfdcd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf19abbc-7d37-d483-e1b2-c36c22e9babd@virtuozzo.com>

On 11.02.21 13:53, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 10.02.2021 20:11, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 29.01.21 17:50, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> Introduce a new option: compressed-cache-size, with default to 64
>>> clusters (to be not less than 64 default max-workers for backup job).
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
>>> ---
>>>   qapi/block-core.json   |  8 +++-
>>>   block/qcow2.h          |  4 ++
>>>   block/qcow2-refcount.c | 13 +++++++
>>>   block/qcow2.c          | 87 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>   4 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json
>>> index 9f555d5c1d..e0be6657f3 100644
>>> --- a/qapi/block-core.json
>>> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
>>> @@ -3202,6 +3202,11 @@
>>>   #             an image, the data file name is loaded from the image
>>>   #             file. (since 4.0)
>>>   #
>>> +# @compressed-cache-size: The maximum size of compressed write cache in
>>> +#                         bytes. If positive must be not less than
>>> +#                         cluster size. 0 disables the feature. Default
>>> +#                         is 64 * cluster_size. (since 6.0)
>>
>> Do we need this, really?  If you don’t use compression, the cache 
>> won’t use any memory, right?  Do you plan on using this option?
>>
>> I’d just set it to a sane default.
> 
> OK for me
> 
>>
>> OTOH, “a sane default” poses two questions, namely whether 64 * 
>> cluster_size is reasonable – with subclusters, the cluster size may be 
>> rather high, so 64 * cluster_size may well be like 128 MB.  Are 64 
>> clusters really necessary for a reasonable performance?
>>
>> Second, I think I could live with a rather high default if clusters 
>> are flushed as soon as they are full.  OTOH, as I briefly touched on, 
>> in practice, I suppose compressed images are just written to 
>> constantly, so even if clusters are flushed as soon as they are full, 
>> the cache will still remain full all the time.
>>
>>
>> Different topic: Why is the cache disableable?  I thought there are no 
>> downsides?
>>
> 
> to compare performance for example..

Well :D
Doesn’t seem like a reason to expose it to the outside, though, I don’t 
know.

Max



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-29 16:50 [PATCH 0/7] qcow2: compressed write cache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] qemu/queue: add some useful QLIST_ and QTAILQ_ macros Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-01  8:29   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-02-01  8:34     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-10 17:07   ` Max Reitz
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] block/qcow2: introduce cache for compressed writes Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-10 17:07   ` Max Reitz
2021-02-11 12:49     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-18 15:04       ` Max Reitz
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] block/qcow2: use compressed write cache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-10 17:11   ` Max Reitz
2021-02-11 12:53     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-18 16:02       ` Max Reitz [this message]
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] simplebench: bench_one(): add slow_limit argument Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] simplebench: bench_one(): support count=1 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] simplebench/bench-backup: add --compressed option Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-01-29 16:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] simplebench/bench-backup: add target-cache argument Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-01-29 17:30 ` [PATCH 0/7] qcow2: compressed write cache no-reply
2021-02-01  8:24   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-09 13:25 ` Max Reitz
2021-02-09 14:10   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-09 14:47     ` Max Reitz
2021-02-09 16:39       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-09 18:36         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-09 18:41           ` Denis V. Lunev
2021-02-09 18:51             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-10 10:00               ` Max Reitz
2021-02-10 10:10                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-02-09 16:52       ` Denis V. Lunev
2021-02-10 10:00         ` Max Reitz
2021-02-10 12:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-02-10 14:35   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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