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From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: eric.auger@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/12] vfio/{iommufd,container}: Initialize HostIOMMUDeviceCaps during attach_device()
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 16:34:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fd5c94b-d2c9-41e4-b753-34f1f5e3a991@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61849951-cc63-4ea3-8934-100e13964419@redhat.com>

On 17/07/2024 14:41, Eric Auger wrote:
> On 7/17/24 14:33, Joao Martins wrote:
>> On 17/07/2024 13:19, Eric Auger wrote:
>>> Hi Joao,
>>>
>>> On 7/12/24 13:46, Joao Martins wrote:
>>>> Fetch IOMMU hw raw caps behind the device and thus move the
>>> what does mean "Fetch IOMMU hw raw caps behind the device'"
>> Fetching the out_capabilities field from GET_HW_INFO which essentially tell us
>> if the IOMMU behind the device supports dirty tracking.
> that's much clearer than the 1st sentence
>>
>>>> HostIOMMUDevice::realize() to be done during the attach of the device. It
>>>> allows it to cache the information obtained from IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO from
>>> what do you mean by " It allows it to cache the information obtained
>>> from IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO from iommufd early on"
>> /me nods
> ?

By caching I mean that invoking realize() earlier allow us to store the value of
@out_capabilities in HostIOMMUDevice::caps for later use and avoid having to
call GET_HW_INFO Again. 'Early on' refers to me doing this at the beginning of
attach_device().

>>
>>>> iommufd early on. However, while legacy HostIOMMUDevice caps
>>> what does mean "legacy HostIOMMUDevice caps always return true"?
>> That means that it can't fail, and the data in there is synthetic:
>>
>>     VFIODevice *vdev = opaque;
>>
>>     hiod->name = g_strdup(vdev->name);
>>     hiod->agent = opaque;
>>
>>     return true;
>>
>> The IOMMUFD one might fail if GET_HW_INFO fails.
> so you talk about hiod_legacy_vfio_realize() and not "
> 
> legacy HostIOMMUDevice caps"!
> 
It's both. Legacy doesn't need to initialize @caps. Whereby in IOMMUFD we do and
with actual info (the capabilities) and in order to do that, we need the backend
initialized. And *that* ioctl() may fail.

>>
>>>> always return true and doesn't have dependency on other things, the IOMMUFD
>>>> backend requires the iommufd FD to be connected and having a devid to be
>>>> able to query capabilities. Hence when exactly is HostIOMMUDevice
>>>> initialized inside backend ::attach_device() implementation is backend
>>>> specific.
>>>>
>>>> This is in preparation to fetch parse hw capabilities and understand if
>>> fetch parse?
>>>> dirty tracking is supported by device backing IOMMU without necessarily
>>>> duplicating the amount of calls we do to IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO.
>>> But we move code from generic place to BE specific place?
>>>
>> No because in IOMMUFD needs the backend connected, while the legacy backend
>> doesn't. Otherwise this patch wouldn't be needed to be backend specific.
>>
>>> Sorry I feel really hard to understand the commit msg in general
>>>
>> How about this:
>>
>>     Fetch IOMMU hw raw caps behind the device and thus move the
> You need to tell what the patch does and why.
> 

IMHO, I already do that -- what we are having here is a parsing issue on my
english (likely because it's a bit convoluted).

Me asking you how it sounds is for me to calibrate against how you understand it
or literality of the text (or lack of thereof).

> "Fetch IOMMU hw raw caps behind the device" sentence does not clearly fit in any.
> 
>>     HostIOMMUDevice::realize() to be done during the attach of the device.
>>
>>     This is in preparation to fetch parse hw capabilities and understand if
>>     dirty tracking is supported by device backing IOMMU without necessarily
>>     duplicating the amount of calls we do to IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO.
>>
>>     Note that the HostIOMMUDevice data with legacy backend is synthetic
>>     and doesn't need any information from the (type1-iommu) backend. While the
>>     IOMMUFD backend requires the iommufd FD to be connected and having a devid
>>     to be able to query device capabilities seeded in HostIOMMUDevice. This
>>     means that HostIOMMUDevice initialization (i.e. ::realized() is invoked) is
>>     container backend specific.
>>
>>
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-17 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-12 11:46 [PATCH v4 00/12] hw/iommufd: IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] vfio/pci: Extract mdev check into an helper Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16  9:33     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] vfio/iommufd: Don't initialize nor set a HOST_IOMMU_DEVICE with mdev Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 13:26   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17  1:34   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] backends/iommufd: Extend iommufd_backend_get_device_info() to fetch HW capabilities Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:22   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 13:34   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] vfio/iommufd: Return errno in iommufd_cdev_attach_ioas_hwpt() Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:27   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 13:36   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17  1:37   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] vfio/iommufd: Introduce auto domain creation Joao Martins
2024-07-16  9:39   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16  9:47     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:54   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 16:04   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-16 16:44     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-16 16:46       ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17  2:52         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:09           ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17  9:28             ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17  9:31               ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18 13:47                 ` Joao Martins
2024-07-19  6:06                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17  9:48             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:53               ` Joao Martins
2024-07-16 17:32       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17  2:18   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:04     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 10:05       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17 11:04         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18  7:44           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-18  9:16             ` Joao Martins
2024-07-19  2:36               ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] vfio/{iommufd,container}: Remove caps::aw_bits Joao Martins
2024-07-16 10:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 17:40   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-16 18:22     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 11:48       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] vfio/{iommufd, container}: Initialize HostIOMMUDeviceCaps during attach_device() Joao Martins via
2024-07-16 10:20   ` [PATCH v4 07/12] vfio/{iommufd,container}: " Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 10:40     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17  2:05   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  8:55     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 12:19   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 12:33     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 13:41       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 15:34         ` Joao Martins [this message]
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] vfio/iommufd: Probe and request hwpt dirty tracking capability Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17 12:27   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 12:38     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 13:43       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] vfio/iommufd: Implement VFIOIOMMUClass::set_dirty_tracking support Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:24   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17  2:24   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:14     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 12:36   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 12:41     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 13:34       ` Eric Auger
2024-07-17 15:18         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] vfio/iommufd: Implement VFIOIOMMUClass::query_dirty_bitmap support Joao Martins
2024-07-16 12:31   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-16 12:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-07-17 12:50   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] vfio/migration: Don't block migration device dirty tracking is unsupported Joao Martins
2024-07-17  2:38   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-17  9:20     ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 15:35       ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 16:02         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 16:54           ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18  7:20       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-18  9:05         ` Joao Martins
2024-07-17 12:57   ` Eric Auger
2024-07-12 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] vfio/common: Allow disabling device dirty page tracking Joao Martins
2024-07-16  8:20 ` [PATCH v4 00/12] hw/iommufd: IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-07-16  9:22   ` Joao Martins
2024-07-18  7:50     ` Duan, Zhenzhong

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