From: "Cédric Le Goater" <clegoate@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Harsh Prateek Bora" <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
"Laurent Vivier" <laurent@vivier.eu>,
qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
"Daniel Henrique Barboza" <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
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"Ilya Leoshkevich" <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
"Eric Farman" <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] hw: define and enforce a standard lifecycle for versioned machines
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 13:46:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <919d07f5-ecf7-4ce1-9508-7ac8f8f6e7e4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240501182759.2934195-1-berrange@redhat.com>
On 5/1/24 20:27, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Thomas proposed a new deprecation and removal policy for versioned
> machine types that would see them liable for deletion after 6 years:
>
> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2024-04/msg04683.html
>
> This suggest was met with broad approval, however, I suggested that we
> could take it further and actually mark them deprecated sooner, at the
> 3 year timeframe, and also fully automate the enablement of the runtime
> deprecation warning without developer intervention on every release
> cycle.
>
> This series implements my suggestions.
>
> The first patch introduces some helper macros and documents a standard
> code pattern for defining versioned machine types across targets.
>
> The next 6 patches convert existing targets with versioned machine
> types (arm, s390x, ppc, m68k, i386) to use the new helper macros and
> code patterns.
>
> A further patch introduces some helper macros for automating the
> handling of deprecation and deletion of versioned machine types.
>
> Two more patches then enable the deprecation and deletion logic
> across all versioned machines
>
> Finally we do some cleanup and document the new policy.
>
> ........a tangent about VERSION file handling.......
>
> One oddity here, is that during the development and release
> candidate phases the automatic logic in this series has an off-by-1
> error.
>
> This is because when we, for example, add the "9.1" machine type
> versions, the VERSION file is still reporting '9.0.50', and then
> '9.0.9{1,2,3,4}'.
>
> IOW, during development and in rc candidates, we fail to deprecate
> and delete 1 machine type. We should already have deprecated the
> 6.1 machine types, but the most recently deprecated is 6.0.
> This is pretty harmless since the final release does the right
> thing.
>
> I wonder, however, whether we would benefit from changing how we
> update the VERSION file.
>
> eg instead of re-using the micro digit to indicate a dev or rc
> snapshot, represent those explicitly. eg "9.1.0-dev" and
> "9.1.0-rc1", "9.1.0-rc2", etc in VERSION.
>
> We don't use the full QEMU_VERSION in the code in all that many
> places. It appears in some help messages for command line tools,
> and in QMP query-version response, and in a few other misc places.
> At a glance it appears all of those places would easily handle a
> tagged version.
>
> For release candidates in particular I think it would be saner
> to show the user the actual version the release is about to become,
> rather than the previous release's version. This would make the
> reported version match the rc tarball naming too which would be
> nice.
>
> Anyway, this isn't a blocker for this machine type versioning
> proposal, just a thought....
I would agree with such a change. The version numbers always confused
me. AFAICT, only QEMU_VERSION_MICRO would need some massaging. It
shouldn't be too complex.
For the series,
Tested-by: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
Thanks,
C.
>
> Daniel P. Berrangé (14):
> include/hw: add helpers for defining versioned machine types
> hw/arm: convert 'virt' machine definitions to use new macros
> hw/s390x: convert 'ccw' machine definitions to use new macros
> hw/ppc: convert 'spapr' machine definitions to use new macros
> hw/m68k: convert 'virt' machine definitions to use new macros
> hw/i386: convert 'i440fx' machine definitions to use new macros
> hw/i386: convert 'q35' machine definitions to use new macros
> include/hw: add macros for deprecation & removal of versioned machines
> hw: temporarily disable deletion of versioned machine types
> hw: set deprecation info for all versioned machine types
> hw: skip registration of outdated versioned machine types
> hw/ppc: remove obsolete manual deprecation reason string of spapr
> machines
> hw/i386: remove obsolete manual deprecation reason string of i440fx
> machines
> docs: document special exception for machine type deprecation &
> removal
>
> docs/about/deprecated.rst | 12 ++
> hw/arm/virt.c | 30 +++--
> hw/i386/pc_piix.c | 252 +++++++++++++++-------------------
> hw/i386/pc_q35.c | 215 +++++++++++++----------------
> hw/m68k/virt.c | 53 +++++---
> hw/ppc/spapr.c | 96 +++++++------
> hw/s390x/s390-virtio-ccw.c | 98 ++++++++------
> include/hw/boards.h | 268 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> include/hw/i386/pc.h | 32 +++++
> 9 files changed, 666 insertions(+), 390 deletions(-)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-03 11:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-01 18:27 [PATCH 00/14] hw: define and enforce a standard lifecycle for versioned machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 01/14] include/hw: add helpers for defining versioned machine types Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 10:34 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-09 14:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 14:57 ` Eric Blake
2024-05-02 16:54 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-09 14:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 02/14] hw/arm: convert 'virt' machine definitions to use new macros Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:11 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 03/14] hw/s390x: convert 'ccw' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:12 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 04/14] hw/ppc: convert 'spapr' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:57 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 05/14] hw/m68k: convert 'virt' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:00 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 06/14] hw/i386: convert 'i440fx' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 07/14] hw/i386: convert 'q35' " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 08/14] include/hw: add macros for deprecation & removal of versioned machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 10:59 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-09 14:42 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 09/14] hw: temporarily disable deletion of versioned machine types Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:05 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-02 11:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 10/14] hw: set deprecation info for all " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 11:06 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 11/14] hw: skip registration of outdated " Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:02 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 12/14] hw/ppc: remove obsolete manual deprecation reason string of spapr machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:04 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 13/14] hw/i386: remove obsolete manual deprecation reason string of i440fx machines Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 12:08 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-02 12:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 14/14] docs: document special exception for machine type deprecation & removal Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 9:47 ` Thomas Huth
2024-05-02 9:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-03 11:46 ` Cédric Le Goater [this message]
2024-05-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 00/14] hw: define and enforce a standard lifecycle for versioned machines Peter Maydell
2024-05-03 12:34 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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