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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Yan Vugenfirer <yan@daynix.com>,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-net: do not start queues that are not enabled by the guest
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:47:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94c6cead-7ed1-2269-2c2b-8534849d9e41@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190221221052-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


On 2019/2/22 下午12:22, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:10:08PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:04:05AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> On 2019/2/22 上午9:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 05:40:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> On 2019/2/21 下午4:18, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           For 1.0 device, we can fix the queue_enable, but for 0.9x device how do
>>>>>           you enable one specific queue in this case? (setting status?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Do I understand correctly that for 0.9 device in some cases the device will
>>>>>       receive feature _MQ set, but will not receive VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET?
>>>>>       Or the problem is different?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me clarify, VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET is used to control the the
>>>>> number of queue pairs used by device for doing transmission and reception. It
>>>>> was not used to enable or disable a virtqueue.
>>>>>
>>>>> For 1.0 device, we should use queue_enable in pci cfg to enable and disable
>>>>> queue:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We could do:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq0
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq1
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Set vq paris to 1
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq2
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq3
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) set vq pairs to 2
>>>> I do not think spec allows this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
>>>> 1. Reset the device.
>>>> 2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
>>>> 3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the device.
>>>> 4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits understood by the OS and driver to the
>>>> device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration
>>>> fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
>>>> 5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new feature bits after this step.
>>>> 6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: otherwise, the device does not
>>>> support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
>>>> 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for the device, optional per-bus setup,
>>>> reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration space, and population of virtqueues.
>>>> 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thus vqs are setup at step 7.
>>>>
>>>> # of vq pairs are set up through a command which is a special
>>>> buffer, and spec says:
>>>>
>>>> The driver MUST NOT send any buffer available notifications to the device before setting DRIVER_OK.
>>>
>>> So you meant write to queue_enable is forbidden after DRIVER_OK (though it's
>>> not very clear to me from the  spec). And if a driver want to enable new
>>> queues, it must reset the device?
>>
>> That's my reading.  What do you think?


Looks like I can infer this from the spec, maybe it's better to clarify.


> Btw some legacy drivers might violate this by addig buffers
> before driver_ok.


Yes, but it's probably too late to fix them.

Thanks.


>>>>
>>>>> But this requires a proper implementation for queue_enable for vhost which is
>>>>> missed in qemu and probably what you really want to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> but for 0.9x device, there's no such way to do this. That's the issue.
>>>> 0.9x there's no queue enable, assumption is PA!=0 means VQ has
>>>> been enabled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So
>>>>> driver must allocate all queBes before starting the device, otherwise there's
>>>>> no way to enable it afterwards.
>>>> As per spec queues must be allocated before DRIVER_OK.
>>>>
>>>> That is universal.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, this is not what is done by current windows
>>> drivers.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>>> There're tricks to make it work like what is
>>>>> done in your patch, but it depends on a specific implementation like qemu which
>>>>> is sub-optimal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           A fundamental question is what prevents you from just initialization all
>>>>>           queues during driver start? It looks to me this save lots of efforts
>>>>>           than allocating queue dynamically.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       This is not so trivial in Windows driver, as it does not have objects for queues
>>>>>       that it does not use. Linux driver first of all allocates all the
>>>>>       queues and then
>>>>>       adds Rx/Tx to those it will use. Windows driver first decides how many queues
>>>>>       it will use then allocates objects for them and initializes them from zero to
>>>>>       fully functional state.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you just need to allocate some memory for the virtqueue, there's no need
>>>>> to make it visible to the rest until it was enabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-25  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13 14:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-net: do not start queues that are not enabled by the guest Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-18  3:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-02-18  9:58   ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-18 16:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-18 20:49       ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-18 23:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-19  6:27           ` Jason Wang
2019-02-19 14:19             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-20 10:13               ` Jason Wang
2019-02-21  6:00             ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-21  6:49               ` Jason Wang
2019-02-21  8:18                 ` Yuri Benditovich
2019-02-21  9:40                   ` Jason Wang
2019-02-22  1:35                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  3:04                       ` Jason Wang
2019-02-22  3:10                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  4:22                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-25  7:47                             ` Jason Wang [this message]
2019-02-25 12:33                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 14:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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