From: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 13/13] migration: cpr-transfer mode
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 16:09:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <95bfa06f-de5a-42cc-8078-c49fd617a73b@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwbUTXCxxl4heZYV@x1n>
On 10/9/2024 3:06 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 02:43:44PM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
>> On 10/8/2024 3:48 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 04:11:38PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>>>> As of half an hour ago =) We could put a feature branch up and work
>>>> together, if you have more concrete thoughts on how this would look like
>>>> let me know.
>>>
>>> [I'll hijack this thread with one more email, as this is not cpr-relevant]
>>>
>>> I think I listed all the things I can think of in the wiki, so please go
>>> ahead.
>>>
>>> One trivial suggestion is we can start from the very simple, which is the
>>> handshake itself, with a self-bootstrap protocol, probably feature-bit
>>> based or whatever you prefer. Then we set bit 0 saying "this QEMU knows
>>> how to handshake".
>>>
>>> Comparing to the rest requirement, IMHO we can make the channel
>>> establishment the 1st feature, then it's already good for merging, having
>>> feature bit 1 saying "this qemu understands named channel establishment".
>>>
>>> Then we add new feature bits on top of the handshake feature, by adding
>>> more feature bits. Both QEMUs should first handshake on the feature bits
>>> they support and enable only the subset that all support.
>>>
>>> Or instead of bit, feature strings, etc. would all work which you
>>> prefer. Just to say we don't need to impl all the ideas there, as some of
>>> them might take more time (e.g. device tree check), and that list is
>>> probably not complete anyway.
>>
>> While writing a qtest for cpr-transfer, I discovered a problem that could be
>> solved with an early migration handshake, prior to cpr_save_state / cpr_load_state.
>>
>> There is currently no way to set migration caps on dest qemu before starting
>> cpr-transfer, because dest qemu blocks in cpr_state_load before creating any
>> devices or monitors. It is unblocked after the user sends the migrate command
>> to source qemu, but then the migration starts and it is too late to set migration
>> capabilities or parameters on the dest.
>>
>> Are you OK with that restriction (for now, until a handshake is implemented)?
>> If not, I have a problem.
>>
>> I can hack the qtest to make it work with the restriction.
>
> Hmm, the test case is one thing, but if it's a problem, then.. how in real
> life one could set migration capabilities on dest qemu for cpr-transfer?
You will allow it via the migration handshake!
But right now, one can enable capabilities by adding -global migration.xxx=yyy
on the target command line.
> Now a similar question, and also what I overlooked previously, is how
> cpr-transfer should support "-incoming defer". We need that because that's
> what Libvirt uses.. with an upcoming migrate_incoming QMP command.
Defer works. Start dest qemu, issue the migrate command to source qemu.
Dest qemu finishes cpr_load_state and enters the main loop, listening for
montitor commands.
- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-09 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-30 19:40 [PATCH V2 00/13] Live update: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 01/13] machine: alloc-anon option Steve Sistare
2024-10-03 16:14 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-04 10:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-04 12:33 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-04 12:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-04 13:24 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 16:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-07 19:05 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 15:36 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 19:30 ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 02/13] migration: cpr-state Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 14:14 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 19:30 ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 03/13] migration: save cpr mode Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 15:18 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 19:31 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-07 20:10 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 15:57 ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 04/13] migration: stop vm earlier for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 15:27 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 20:52 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 15:35 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 19:13 ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 05/13] physmem: preserve ram blocks " Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 15:49 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 16:28 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 15:17 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 16:26 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 21:05 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 21:32 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-31 20:32 ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 06/13] hostmem-memfd: preserve " Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 15:52 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 07/13] migration: SCM_RIGHTS for QEMUFile Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 16:06 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 16:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-07 18:12 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 08/13] migration: VMSTATE_FD Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 16:36 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 19:31 ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 09/13] migration: cpr-transfer save and load Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 16:47 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 19:31 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 15:36 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 10/13] migration: cpr-uri parameter Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 16:49 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 11/13] migration: cpr-uri option Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 16:50 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 12/13] migration: split qmp_migrate Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 19:18 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 13/13] migration: cpr-transfer mode Steve Sistare
2024-10-07 19:44 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-07 20:39 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 15:45 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 19:12 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 19:38 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 18:28 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-10-08 18:47 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-08 19:11 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-10-08 19:33 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 19:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-09 18:43 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-09 19:06 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-09 19:59 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-09 20:18 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-09 20:57 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-09 22:08 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-10-10 20:05 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-09 20:09 ` Steven Sistare [this message]
2024-10-09 20:36 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-10 20:06 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-10 21:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-24 21:12 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-25 13:55 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25 15:04 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 19:29 ` Steven Sistare
2024-10-08 14:33 ` [PATCH V2 00/13] Live update: cpr-transfer Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2024-10-08 21:13 ` Steven Sistare
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