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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Melnichenko <andrew@daynix.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	Yan Vugenfirer <yan@daynix.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] ebpf: Added ebpf helper for libvirtd.
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 08:47:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <965bb2c1-64c5-eeb2-6f35-52dd2652d1be@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im26qn9q.fsf@toke.dk>


在 2021/6/22 下午5:09, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 写道:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:25:19AM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>>> Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> 在 2021/6/22 上午11:29, Yuri Benditovich 写道:
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:20 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 在 2021/6/19 上午4:03, Andrew Melnichenko 写道:
>>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>> I've checked "kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=0" on Fedora,  Ubuntu,
>>>>>>> and Debian - no need permissions to update BPF maps.
>>>>>> How about RHEL :) ?
>>>>> If I'm not mistaken, the RHEL releases do not use modern kernels yet
>>>>> (for BPF we need 5.8+).
>>>>> So this will be (probably) relevant for RHEL 9. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>> Adding Toke for more ideas on this.
>>> Ignore the kernel version number; we backport all of BPF to RHEL,
>>> basically. RHEL8.4 is up to upstream kernel 5.10, feature-wise.
>>>
>>> However, we completely disable unprivileged BPF on RHEL kernels. Also,
>>> there's upstream commit:
>>> 08389d888287 ("bpf: Add kconfig knob for disabling unpriv bpf by default")
>>>
>>> which adds a new value of '2' to the unprivileged_bpf_disable sysctl. I
>>> believe this may end up being the default on Fedora as well.
>>>
>>> So any design relying on unprivileged BPF is likely to break; I'd
>>> suggest you look into how you can get this to work with CAP_BPF :)
>> QEMU will never have any capabilities. Any resources that required
>> privileges have to be opened by a separate privileged helper, and the
>> open FD then passed across to the QEMU process. This relies on the
>> capabilities checks only being performed at time of initial opening,
>> and *not* on operations performed on the already open FD.
> That won't work for regular map updates either, unfortunately: you still
> have to perform a bpf() syscall to update an element, and that is a
> privileged operation.
>
> You may be able to get around this by using an array map type and
> mmap()'ing the map contents, but I'm not sure how well that will work
> across process boundaries.
>
> If it doesn't, I only see two possibilities: populate the map
> ahead-of-time and leave it in place, or keep the privileged helper
> process around to perform map updates on behalf of QEMU...


Right, and this could be probably done by extending and tracking the RSS 
update via rx filter event.

Thanks


>
> -Toke
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-23  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-09 10:04 [RFC PATCH 0/5] ebpf: Added ebpf helper for libvirtd Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] ebpf: Added eBPF initialization by fds Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] virtio-net: Added property to load eBPF RSS with fds Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] ebpf_rss_helper: Added helper for eBPF RSS Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] qmp: Added qemu-ebpf-rss-path command Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-11 14:15   ` Eric Blake
2021-06-11 17:21     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-12  5:28   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-15 23:16     ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-07-05 13:50       ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] meson: libbpf dependency now exclusively for Linux Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-10  6:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] ebpf: Added ebpf helper for libvirtd Jason Wang
2021-06-10  6:55   ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-06-11  5:36     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-11 16:49       ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-11 17:24         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-15  9:13         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-15 22:18           ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-18 20:03             ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-21  9:20               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22  3:29                 ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-06-22  4:58                   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22  8:25                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-22  8:27                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-22  9:09                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-22 13:01                           ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-22 13:17                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-23  0:47                           ` Jason Wang [this message]
2021-06-28 11:18                             ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-06-29  3:39                               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-30 16:40                                 ` Andrew Melnichenko

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