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From: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	eric.auger.pro@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com, imammedo@redhat.com
Cc: wei@redhat.com, agraf@suse.de, drjones@redhat.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 05/15] hw/arm/virt: handle max_vm_phys_shift conflicts on migration
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:50:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96e207c4-96e2-5d86-f27f-9dfb80577a9b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <401ccabc-584a-8754-bcb6-b4fdea6fe836@redhat.com>

Hi David,
On 07/04/2018 01:53 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 03.07.2018 21:32, Auger Eric wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> On 07/03/2018 08:41 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 03.07.2018 09:19, Eric Auger wrote:
>>>> When migrating a VM, we must make sure the destination host
>>>> supports as many IPA bits as the source. Otherwise the migration
>>>> must fail.
>>>>
>>>> We add a VMState infrastructure to machvirt. On pre_save(),
>>>> the current source max_vm_phys_shift is saved.
>>>>
>>>> On destination, we cannot use this information when creating the
>>>> VM. The VM is created using the max value reported by the
>>>> destination host - or the kvm_type inherited value -. However on
>>>> post_load() we can check that this value is compatible with the
>>>> source saved value.
>>>
>>> Just wondering, how exactly is the guest able to detect the 42b (e.g. vs
>>> 42b) configuration?
>>
>> the source IPA size is saved in the VMState. When restoring it on
>> post_load we check against the current IPA size (corresponding to the
>> max the destination KVM does support). The destination IPA size is
>> chosen before creating the destination VM. If the destination IPA size
>> is less than the source IPA size, we fail the migration.
>>
>> Hope this helps
> 
> No, I asked if the *guest* is able to distinguish e.g. 43 from 44 or if
> the device memory setup is sufficient.
> 
> Once you create the machine, you setup device memory (using the maxmem
> parameter).
> 
> From that, you directly know how big the largest guest physical address
> will be (e.g. 2TB + (maxram_size - ram_size)). You can check that
> against max_vm_phys_shift and error out.

Ah OK I didn't catch your question. Yes indeed you method is simpler. At
the moment I don't think the guest can make any difference. But the
guest sees the CPU PARange which is fixed currently, as far as I
understand it; also the guest is GPA limited at compilation time with a
given CONFIG_ARM64_PA_BITS_=X config.

So we come back to Dave's remark, if we make CPU PARange match the
max_vm_phys_shift and make the former dynamic, then the guest can see it.

Thanks

Eric
> 
> During migration, source and destination have to have the same qemu
> cmdline, especially same maxmem parameter. So you would catch an invalid
> setup on the destination, without manually migrating and checking
> max_vm_phys_shift.
> 
> However (that's why I am asking) if the guest can spot the difference
> between e.g. 43 and 44, then you should migrate and check. If it is
> implicitly handled by device memory position and size, you should not
> migrate it.
> 
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>>
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-04 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03  7:19 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 00/15] ARM virt: PCDIMM/NVDIMM at 2TB Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 01/15] linux-headers: header update for KVM/ARM KVM_ARM_GET_MAX_VM_PHYS_SHIFT Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 02/15] hw/boards: Add a MachineState parameter to kvm_type callback Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 03/15] kvm: add kvm_arm_get_max_vm_phys_shift Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 04/15] hw/arm/virt: support kvm_type property Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 05/15] hw/arm/virt: handle max_vm_phys_shift conflicts on migration Eric Auger
2018-07-03 18:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-03 19:32     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-04 11:53       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-04 12:50         ` Auger Eric [this message]
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 06/15] hw/arm/virt: Allocate device_memory Eric Auger
2018-07-03 18:25   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-03 19:27     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-04 12:05       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-05 11:42         ` Auger Eric
2018-07-05 11:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-05 12:00             ` Auger Eric
2018-07-05 12:09               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-05 12:17                 ` Auger Eric
2018-07-05 13:19                   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2018-07-05 14:27                     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-11 13:17                       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-07-12 14:22                         ` Auger Eric
2018-07-12 14:45                           ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-12 14:53                             ` Auger Eric
2018-07-12 15:15                               ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-18 13:00                               ` Igor Mammedov
2018-08-08  9:33                                 ` Auger Eric
2018-08-09  8:45                                   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-08-09  9:54                                     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-18 13:05   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-08-08  9:33     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 07/15] hw/arm/virt: Add memory hotplug framework Eric Auger
2018-07-03 18:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-03 19:28     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-03 18:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-03 19:34     ` Auger Eric
2018-07-04 11:47       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 08/15] hw/arm/boot: introduce fdt_add_memory_node helper Eric Auger
2018-07-18 14:04   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-08-08  9:44     ` Auger Eric
2018-08-09  8:57       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 09/15] hw/arm/boot: Expose the PC-DIMM nodes in the DT Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 10/15] acpi: move build_srat_hotpluggable_memory to generic ACPI source Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 11/15] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add PC-DIMM in SRAT Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 12/15] nvdimm: use configurable ACPI IO base and size Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 13/15] hw/arm/virt: Add nvdimm hot-plug infrastructure Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 14/15] hw/arm/boot: Expose the pmem nodes in the DT Eric Auger
2018-07-03  7:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 15/15] hw/arm/virt: Add nvdimm and nvdimm-persistence options Eric Auger
2018-07-18 14:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 00/15] ARM virt: PCDIMM/NVDIMM at 2TB Igor Mammedov
2018-10-18 12:56   ` Auger Eric
2018-10-03 13:49 ` Auger Eric
2018-10-03 14:13   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-03 14:42     ` Auger Eric
2018-10-03 14:46       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-04 11:11   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-10-04 11:32     ` Auger Eric
2018-10-04 12:02       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-04 12:07         ` Auger Eric
2018-10-04 13:16       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-10-04 14:16         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-05  8:18           ` Igor Mammedov

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