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From: Jason Dillaman <dillaman@redhat.com>
To: andrey@xdel.ru
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] is there a limit on the number of in-flight I/O operations?
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:51:53 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <980375080.25911577.1441824713332.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1000957815.25879188.1441820902018.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>

>> Bumping this...
>>
>> For now, we are rarely suffering with an unlimited cache growth issue
>> which can be observed on all post-1.4 versions of qemu with rbd
>> backend in a writeback mode and certain pattern of a guest operations.
>> The issue is confirmed for virtio and can be re-triggered by issuing
>> excessive amount of write requests without completing returned acks
>> from a emulator` cache timely. Since most applications behave in a
>> right way, the oom issue is very rare (and we developed an ugly
>> workaround for such situations long ago). If anybody is interested in
>> fixing this, I can send a prepared image for a reproduction or
>> instructions to make one, whichever is preferable.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>A gentle bump: for at least rbd backend with writethrough/writeback
>cache it is possible to achieve unlimited growth with lot of large
>unfinished ops, what can be considered as a DoS. Usually it is
>triggered by poorly written applications in the wild, like proprietary
>KV databases or MSSQL under Windows, but regular applications,
>primarily OSS databases, can trigger the RSS growth for hundreds of
>megabytes just easily. There is probably no straight way to limit
>in-flight request size by re-chunking it, as supposedly malicious
>guest can inflate it up to very high numbers, but it`s fine to crash
>such a guest, saving real-world stuff with simple in-flight op count
>limiter looks like more achievable option.

Any chance you can provide the reproducer VM image via ceph-post-file [1]?  Using the latest Firefly release with QEMU 2.3.1, I was unable to reproduce unlimited growth while hammering the VM with a randwrite fio job with iodepth=256, blocksize=4k.   

[1] http://ceph.com/docs/master/man/8/ceph-post-file/

-- Jason

       reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1000957815.25879188.1441820902018.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>
2015-09-09 18:51 ` Jason Dillaman [this message]
2014-07-18 14:58 [Qemu-devel] is there a limit on the number of in-flight I/O operations? Chris Friesen
2014-07-18 15:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-18 16:22   ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-18 20:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-18 22:48       ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-19  5:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-19  6:27           ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-19  7:23             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-19  8:45               ` Benoît Canet
2014-07-21 14:59                 ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-21 15:15                   ` Benoît Canet
2014-07-21 15:35                     ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-21 15:54                       ` Benoît Canet
2014-07-21 16:10                       ` Benoît Canet
2014-08-23  0:59                         ` Chris Friesen
2014-08-23  7:56                           ` Benoît Canet
2014-08-25 15:12                             ` Chris Friesen
2014-08-25 17:43                               ` Chris Friesen
2015-08-27 16:37                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-27 16:33                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-08-25 21:50                             ` Chris Friesen
2014-08-27  5:43                               ` Chris Friesen
2015-05-14 13:42                                 ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-08-26 17:10                                   ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-08-26 23:31                                     ` Josh Durgin
2015-08-26 23:47                                       ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-08-27  0:56                                         ` Josh Durgin
2015-08-27 16:48                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-27 17:05                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-27 16:49                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-28  0:31                                 ` Josh Durgin
2015-08-28  8:31                                   ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-07-21 19:47                       ` Benoît Canet
2014-07-21 21:12                         ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-21 22:04                           ` Benoît Canet
2014-07-18 15:54 ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-07-18 16:26   ` Chris Friesen
2014-07-18 16:30     ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-07-18 16:46       ` Chris Friesen

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