From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDpCY-0003gA-SK for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2018 06:41:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDpCV-0008U2-P8 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2018 06:41:34 -0400 Received: from mx3-rdu2.redhat.com ([66.187.233.73]:42038 helo=mx1.redhat.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDpCV-0008TU-LG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2018 06:41:31 -0400 References: <20180427210120.03d037b0@naga.suse.cz> <70cb944b-269c-2969-4727-b889298ece30@linaro.org> From: Laszlo Ersek Message-ID: <987b683f-e05e-780a-40cf-68b6b8d0641f@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 12:41:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <70cb944b-269c-2969-4727-b889298ece30@linaro.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] release retrospective, next release timing, numbering List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Richard Henderson , =?UTF-8?Q?Michal_Such=c3=a1nek?= , Peter Maydell Cc: Thomas Huth , QEMU Developers , Stefan Hajnoczi On 04/29/18 16:56, Richard Henderson wrote: > On 04/27/2018 02:01 PM, Michal Such=C3=A1nek wrote: >> Is there any reason why the 64bit emulator would not run on 32bit >> system? The emulated 64bit system is .. emulated after all. >=20 > It does run, but it requires that the 32-bit host perform double-word > arithmetic to emulate the 64-bit guest. When the 64-bit guest is reall= y a > 32-bit guest in disguise, this carries a performance penalty. >=20 > If we ever stop caring about 32-bit hosts, the question becomes moot. What about guest RAM size (more precisely, guest-phys address space)? The x86_64 target might want to use tens of GBs of guest-phys address space, e.g. for cold-plugged RAM, for DIMM hotplug, for 64-bit PCI MMIO aperture. To my understanding, all of those have to be expressed with host virtual addresses in the QEMU process (regardless of TCG vs. KVM). But on a 32-bit host, the QEMU process only has 4GB HVA space. Thanks Laszlo