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From: Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>
To: "Kunkun Jiang" <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>
Cc: "open list:All patches CC here" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com, Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Question] VFIO migration will not be aborted in a corner scenario
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:44:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98ec2c87-f35d-428a-8ed5-2f4f9a2ac9d9@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a737f734-e899-d544-19c1-08a93e3c50ea@huawei.com>


On 13/08/2025 15:18, Kunkun Jiang wrote:
> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>
>
> Hi Avihai,
>
> On 2025/8/12 22:08, Avihai Horon wrote:
>>
>> On 11/08/2025 19:34, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>>> External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> + Avihai
>>>
>>> On 8/11/25 18:02, Kunkun Jiang wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> While testing VFIO migration, I encountered an corner scenario case:
>>>> VFIO migration will not be aborted when the vfio device of dst-vm
>>>> fails to transition from RESUMING to RUNNING state in
>>>> vfio_vmstate_change.
>>>>
>>>> I saw the comments in the vfio_vmstate_change but I don't understand
>>>> why no action is taken for this situation.
>>>
>>> There is error handling in vfio_vmstate_change() :
>>>
>>>         /*
>>>          * Migration should be aborted in this case, but
>>> vm_state_notify()
>>>          * currently does not support reporting failures.
>>>          */
>>>         migration_file_set_error(ret, local_err);
>>
>> Hmm, I think this only sets the error on src. On dst we don't have
>> MigrationState->to_dst_file, so we end up just reporting the erro > 
>> But even if we did set it, no one is checking if there is a migration
>> error after vm_start() is called in process_incoming_migration_bh().
> Yes, that's what I mean.
>>
>>>
>>>> Allowing the live migration process to continue could cause
>>>> unrecoverable damage to the VM.
>>
>> What do you mean by unrecoverable damage to the VM?
>> If RESUMING->RUNNING transition fails, would a VFIO reset recover the
>> device and allow the VM to continue operation with damage limited only
>> to the VFIO device?
> I didn't express myself clearly, let me explain again.
> In my test, I ran a task inside the VM that was using this vfio device.
> In this corner scenario, the task is aborted immediately and the VM is
> still running normally. I mean it is unacceptable that the task is
> aborted directly.

Ah I understand.

>>
>>>> In this case, can we directly exit the dst-vm? Through the
>>>> return-path mechanism, the src-vm can continue to run.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your reply.
>>>
>> The straightforward solution, as you suggested, is to exit dst upon
>> error in RESUMING->RUNNING transition and notify about it to src through
>> the return-path.
>> However, I am not sure if failing the migration after vm_start() on dst
>> is a bit late (as we start vCPUs and do migration_block_activate, etc.).
> I think vCPUs have not started yet. vCPUs will be started only after the
> all callbacks of vm_state_notify are executed.

Yes, in that case need to refactor vm_prepare_start/vm_state_notify to 
handle errors. May be a bit involved, need to further look into that.

Thanks.

> If there are any problems with my analysis, please point them out.
>>
>> But I can think of another way to solve this, hopefully simpler.
>> According to VFIO migration uAPI [1]:
>>   * RESUMING -> STOP
>>   *   Leaving RESUMING terminates a data transfer session and 
>> indicates the
>>   *   device should complete processing of the data delivered by
>> write(). The
>>   *   kernel migration driver should complete the incorporation of data
>> written
>>   *   to the data transfer FD into the device internal state and perform
>>   *   final validity and consistency checking of the new device state.
>> If the
>>   *   user provided data is found to be incomplete, inconsistent, or
>> otherwise
>>   *   invalid, the migration driver must fail the SET_STATE ioctl and
>>   *   optionally go to the ERROR state as described below.
>>
>> So, IIUC, we can add an explicit RESUMING->STOP transition [2] after the
>> device config is loaded (which is the last data the device is expected
>> to receive).
>> If this transition fails, it means something was wrong with migration,
>> and we can send src an error msg via return-path (and not continue to
>> vm_start()).
>>
>> Maybe this approach is less complicated than the first one, and it will
>> also work if src VM was paused prior migration.
>> I already tested some POC and it seems to be working (at least with an
>> artificial error i injected in RESUMING->STOP transition).
>> Kunkun, can you apply the following diff [3] and check if this solves
>> the issue?
> Ok, I'll try it.
>>
>> And in general, what do you think? Should we go with this approach or do
>> you have other ideas?
> My current approach is rather crude. As I said above, I think vcpu has
> not started yet, so I changed it like this.
> diff --git a/hw/vfio/migration.c b/hw/vfio/migration.c
> index 4c06e3db93..70ccb706c6 100644
> --- a/hw/vfio/migration.c
> +++ b/hw/vfio/migration.c
> @@ -878,7 +878,7 @@ static void vfio_vmstate_change_prepare(void
> *opaque, bool running,
>  static void vfio_vmstate_change(void *opaque, bool running, RunState
> state)
>  {
>      VFIODevice *vbasedev = opaque;
> -    enum vfio_device_mig_state new_state;
> +    enum vfio_device_mig_state new_state, pre_state;
>      Error *local_err = NULL;
>      int ret;
>
> @@ -899,6 +899,10 @@ static void vfio_vmstate_change(void *opaque, bool
> running, RunState state)
>           * currently does not support reporting failures.
>           */
>          migration_file_set_error(ret, local_err);
> +
> +        if (pre_state == VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_RESUMING) {
> +            exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
> +        }
>      }
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.16/source/include/uapi/linux/vfio.h#L1099 
>>
>>
>> [2] Today RESUMING->STOP is done implicitly by the VFIO driver as part
>> of RESUMING->RUNNING transition.
>> [3]
>>
>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/migration-multifd.c b/hw/vfio/migration-multifd.c
>> index e4785031a7..66f8461f02 100644
>> --- a/hw/vfio/migration-multifd.c
>> +++ b/hw/vfio/migration-multifd.c
>> @@ -267,6 +267,12 @@ static bool
>> vfio_load_bufs_thread_load_config(VFIODevice *vbasedev,
>>       ret = vfio_load_device_config_state(f_in, vbasedev);
>>       bql_unlock();
>>
>> +    ret = vfio_migration_set_state(vbasedev, VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_STOP,
>> +                                   VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_ERROR, errp);
>> +    if (ret) {
>> +        return false;
>> +    }
>> +
>>       if (ret < 0) {
>>           error_setg(errp, "%s: vfio_load_device_config_state() failed:
>> %d",
>>                      vbasedev->name, ret);
>>
>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/migration.c b/hw/vfio/migration.c
>> index 4c06e3db93..a707d17a5b 100644
>> --- a/hw/vfio/migration.c
>> +++ b/hw/vfio/migration.c
>> @@ -737,6 +737,8 @@ static int vfio_load_state(QEMUFile *f, void
>> *opaque, int version_id)
>>           switch (data) {
>>           case VFIO_MIG_FLAG_DEV_CONFIG_STATE:
>>           {
>> +            Error *local_err = NULL;
>> +
>>               if (vfio_multifd_transfer_enabled(vbasedev)) {
>>                   error_report("%s: got DEV_CONFIG_STATE in main
>> migration "
>>                                "channel but doing multifd transfer",
>> @@ -744,7 +746,19 @@ static int vfio_load_state(QEMUFile *f, void
>> *opaque, int version_id)
>>                   return -EINVAL;
>>               }
>>
>> -            return vfio_load_device_config_state(f, opaque);
>> +            ret = vfio_load_device_config_state(f, opaque);
>> +            if (ret) {
>> +                return ret;
>> +            }
>> +
>> +            ret = vfio_migration_set_state_or_reset(
>> +                vbasedev, VFIO_DEVICE_STATE_STOP, &local_err);
>> +            if (ret) {
>> +                error_report_err(local_err);
>> +                return ret;
>> +            }
>> +
>> +            return 0;
>>           }
>>           case VFIO_MIG_FLAG_DEV_SETUP_STATE:
>>           {
>>
>> diff --git a/migration/migration.c b/migration/migration.c
>> index 10c216d25d..fd498c864d 100644
>> --- a/migration/migration.c
>> +++ b/migration/migration.c
>> @@ -91,6 +91,7 @@ enum mig_rp_message_type {
>>       MIG_RP_MSG_RECV_BITMAP,  /* send recved_bitmap back to source */
>>       MIG_RP_MSG_RESUME_ACK,   /* tell source that we are ready to
>> resume */
>>       MIG_RP_MSG_SWITCHOVER_ACK, /* Tell source it's OK to do 
>> switchover */
>> +    MIG_RP_MSG_ERROR, /* Tell source that destination encountered an
>> error */
>>
>>       MIG_RP_MSG_MAX
>>   };
>> @@ -884,6 +885,11 @@ process_incoming_migration_co(void *opaque)
>>       ret = qemu_loadvm_state(mis->from_src_file);
>>       mis->loadvm_co = NULL;
>>
>> +    if (ret) {
>> +        migrate_send_rp_error(mis);
>> +        error_report("SENT RP ERROR");
>> +    }
>> +
>> trace_vmstate_downtime_checkpoint("dst-precopy-loadvm-completed");
>>
>>       ps = postcopy_state_get();
>> @@ -1126,6 +1132,11 @@ bool migration_has_all_channels(void)
>>       return true;
>>   }
>> +int migrate_send_rp_error(MigrationIncomingState *mis)
>> +{
>> +    return migrate_send_rp_message(mis, MIG_RP_MSG_ERROR, 0, NULL);
>> +}
>> +
>>   int migrate_send_rp_switchover_ack(MigrationIncomingState *mis)
>>   {
>>       return migrate_send_rp_message(mis, MIG_RP_MSG_SWITCHOVER_ACK, 0,
>> NULL);
>> @@ -2614,6 +2625,10 @@ static void *source_return_path_thread(void 
>> *opaque)
>> trace_source_return_path_thread_switchover_acked();
>>               break;
>>
>> +        case MIG_RP_MSG_ERROR:
>> +            error_setg(&err, "DST indicated error");
>> +            goto out;
>> +
>>           default:
>>               break;
>>           }
>> diff --git a/migration/migration.h b/migration/migration.h
>> index 01329bf824..f11ff7a199 100644
>> --- a/migration/migration.h
>> +++ b/migration/migration.h
>> @@ -553,6 +553,7 @@ void
>> migrate_send_rp_recv_bitmap(MigrationIncomingState *mis,
>>                                    char *block_name);
>>   void migrate_send_rp_resume_ack(MigrationIncomingState *mis, uint32_t
>> value);
>>   int migrate_send_rp_switchover_ack(MigrationIncomingState *mis);
>> +int migrate_send_rp_error(MigrationIncomingState *mis);
>>
>>   void dirty_bitmap_mig_before_vm_start(void);
>>   void dirty_bitmap_mig_cancel_outgoing(void);
>>
>>> I suggest you open an issue on :
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/
>>>
>>> with a detailed description of your environment :
>>>
>>>   Host HW, Host OS, QEMU version, QEMU command line, Guest OS, etc.
>>>
>>> A template is provided when a new issue is created.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> .


      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-11 16:02 [Question] VFIO migration will not be aborted in a corner scenario Kunkun Jiang via
2025-08-11 16:34 ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-08-12 14:08   ` Avihai Horon
2025-08-12 14:34     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-08-12 14:58       ` Peter Xu
2025-08-18  6:10         ` Avihai Horon
2025-08-12 14:56     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-08-13 12:18       ` Kunkun Jiang via
2025-08-18  6:13       ` Avihai Horon
2025-08-13 12:18     ` Kunkun Jiang via
2025-08-18  6:44       ` Avihai Horon [this message]

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