From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IID4K-0004By-7N for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:37:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IID4F-0004AG-El for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:37:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IID4F-0004AC-6t for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:36:59 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.239]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IID48-0007UA-3V for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:36:52 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so1598923wxd for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <998d0e4a0708061736w7166102uc0caa85cf0544f8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 02:36:37 +0200 From: "J.C. Pizarro" In-Reply-To: <998d0e4a0708061637x4dfe0dew1edda6105e77a833@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <998d0e4a0708061637x4dfe0dew1edda6105e77a833@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Qemu-devel] What 64-bit CPU targets dominate in the future? Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Hi people, I'm looking for simulators of 64-bit processors for my 32-bit PC and i've found one. "qemu-system-x86_64" works simulating a x86-64 linux as slamd64, ubuntu, etc. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/status.html indicates that x86-64 is OK for System emulation but is not supported for user emulation. The problem is that the x86-64 ISA is too complex to develop i an aplication that generates assembler or machine code like CacaoJVM, JCVM, Flex, ... x86-64 is CISC and not RISC. It will be easy if the 64-bit CPU is RISC. I don't know what 64-bit CPU that will dominate in years 2008 .. 2013. I'm not sure if PearPC or PSIM simulates PowerPC64 ISA but the "Full-System Simulator for IBM PowerPC 970" said that it does but it's closed source. I'm not sure if Sulima simulates Sparc64 ISA from http://ccnuma.anu.edu.au/sulima/0.4/sparc-sulima-0.4.tar.gz but it goes to v0.4 version, not v1.0 :( The IA-64 CPU is monstruous and too complex because there aren't known open source applications that target IA-64. I don't know if that simulator exists or not. After talking, my question is: What popularity of CPU will dominate in the years 2008 .. 2013? By example, 1. x86-64: 75% 2. ppc64: 15% 3. sparc64: 5% 4. others: 5% Any opinion to the respect? Sincerely yours, J.C.