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From: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 8/9] vfio: Check compatibility of CPU and IOMMU address space width
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 13:42:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cfaf81e-d8cc-4ec0-9c56-956b716891e7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250130115800.60b7cbe6.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

+ Gerd for insights regarding vIOMMU support in edk2.

On 1/30/25 19:58, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:43:45 +0100
> Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Print a warning if IOMMU address space width is smaller than the
>> physical address width. In this case, PCI peer-to-peer transactions on
>> BARs are not supported and failures of device MMIO regions are to be
>> expected.
>>
>> This can occur with the 39-bit IOMMU address space width as found on
>> consumer grade processors or when using a vIOMMU device with default
>> settings.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>   hw/vfio/common.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/common.c b/hw/vfio/common.c
>> index 5c9d8657d746ce30af5ae8f9122101e086a61ef5..e5ef93c589b2bed68f790608868ec3c7779d4cb8 100644
>> --- a/hw/vfio/common.c
>> +++ b/hw/vfio/common.c
>> @@ -44,6 +44,8 @@
>>   #include "migration/qemu-file.h"
>>   #include "system/tpm.h"
>>   
>> +#include "hw/core/cpu.h"
>> +
>>   VFIODeviceList vfio_device_list =
>>       QLIST_HEAD_INITIALIZER(vfio_device_list);
>>   static QLIST_HEAD(, VFIOAddressSpace) vfio_address_spaces =
>> @@ -1546,12 +1548,28 @@ retry:
>>       return info;
>>   }
>>   
>> +static bool vfio_device_check_address_space(VFIODevice *vbasedev, Error **errp)
>> +{
>> +    uint32_t cpu_aw_bits = cpu_get_phys_bits(first_cpu);
>> +    uint32_t iommu_aw_bits = vfio_device_get_aw_bits(vbasedev);
>> +
>> +    if (cpu_aw_bits && cpu_aw_bits > iommu_aw_bits) {
> 
> Should we be testing the 64-bit MMIO window and maximum RAM GPA rather
> than the vCPU physical address width?
> 
> Maybe we're just stuck with an indirect solution currently.  AIUI,
> we're testing the vCPU physical address width because (obviously) all
> devices and memory need to be addressable within that address space.
> However, as we've explored offline, there are bare metal systems where
> the CPU physical address width exceeds the IOMMU address width and this
> is not a fundamental problem.  It places restrictions on the maximum
> RAM physical address and the location of the 64-bit MMIO space.
> 
> RAM tends not to be a problem on these bare metal systems since they
> physically cannot hold enough RAM to exceed the IOMMU width and, for
> the most part, we map RAM starting from the bottom of the address
> space.  So long as the VMM doesn't decide to map RAM at the top of the
> physical address space, this doesn't become a problem.
> 
> However, we've decided to do exactly that for the 64-bit MMIO window.
> It's not that the vCPU width being greater than the IOMMU width is a
> fundamental problem, it's that we've chosen a 64-bit MMIO policy that
> makes this become a problem and QEMU only has a convenient mechanism to
> check the host IOMMU width when a vfio device is present.  Arguably,
> when a vIOMMU is present guest firmware should be enlightened to
> understand the address width of that vIOMMU when placing the 64-bit
> MMIO window.  I'd say the failure to do so is a current firmware bug.
> 
> If the vIOMMU address width were honored, we could recommend users set
> that to match the host, regardless of the vCPU physical address width.
> We also already have a failure condition if the vIOMMU address width
> exceeds the vfio-device (ie. indirectly the host) IOMMU width.
> 
> Of course without a vIOMMU, given our 64-bit MMIO policy, we don't have
> a good solution without specifying the 64-bit window or implementing a
> more conservative placement.
> 
> Not sure how much of this is immediately solvable and some indication
> to the user how they can resolve the issue, such as implemented here, is
> better than none, but maybe we can elaborate in a comment that this is
> really more of a workaround for the current behavior of firmware
> relative to the 64-bit MMIO placement policy.  Thanks,

Sure. I will improve the commit log in v3.

Thanks,

C.


> Alex
> 
>> +        error_setg(errp, "Host physical address space (%u) is larger than "
>> +                   "the host IOMMU address space (%u).", cpu_aw_bits,
>> +                   iommu_aw_bits);
>> +        vfio_device_error_append(vbasedev, errp);
>> +        return false;
>> +    }
>> +    return true;
>> +}
>> +
>>   bool vfio_attach_device(char *name, VFIODevice *vbasedev,
>>                           AddressSpace *as, Error **errp)
>>   {
>>       const VFIOIOMMUClass *ops =
>>           VFIO_IOMMU_CLASS(object_class_by_name(TYPE_VFIO_IOMMU_LEGACY));
>>       HostIOMMUDevice *hiod = NULL;
>> +    Error *local_err = NULL;
>>   
>>       if (vbasedev->iommufd) {
>>           ops = VFIO_IOMMU_CLASS(object_class_by_name(TYPE_VFIO_IOMMU_IOMMUFD));
>> @@ -1571,6 +1589,9 @@ bool vfio_attach_device(char *name, VFIODevice *vbasedev,
>>           return false;
>>       }
>>   
>> +    if (!vfio_device_check_address_space(vbasedev, &local_err)) {
>> +        warn_report_err(local_err);
>> +    }
>>       return true;
>>   }
>>   
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-31 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-30 13:43 [PATCH v2 0/9]vfio: Improve error reporting when MMIO region mapping fails Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] util/error: Introduce warn_report_once_err() Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 14:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-01-30 16:03     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 16:28       ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 17:55   ` Alex Williamson
2025-01-30 21:26     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-31  8:30       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] vfio/pci: Replace "iommu_device" by "vIOMMU" Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-10 14:28   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] vfio: Rephrase comment in vfio_listener_region_add() error path Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] vfio: Introduce vfio_get_vfio_device() Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-10 14:32   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-10 16:19     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] vfio: Improve error reporting when MMIO region mapping fails Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-10 14:36   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-02-10 16:17     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] vfio: Remove reports of DMA mapping errors in backends Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] cpu: Introduce cpu_get_phys_bits() Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-10 14:40   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-06 10:37   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-06 14:41     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] vfio: Check compatibility of CPU and IOMMU address space width Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 18:58   ` Alex Williamson
2025-01-31 12:42     ` Cédric Le Goater [this message]
2025-01-31 13:23       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-01-31 17:03         ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-02-06  7:54           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-02-06 17:05             ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-31 22:18         ` Alex Williamson
2025-02-06  8:22           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-03-06 10:33   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-05 13:04   ` Daniel Kral
2025-09-08  8:35     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-01-30 13:43 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] vfio: Remove superfluous error report in vfio_listener_region_add() Cédric Le Goater

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