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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	"Hajnoczi, Stefan" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"P. Berrange, Daniel" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Sergio Lopez Pascual <slp@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PoC: Rust binding for QAPI (qemu-ga only, for now)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:08:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d6215d4-d0cd-67e4-3048-77127194f7e8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+F1CLCT3RpZF8JDYayqkKxFu76vy+q6GUjofZV3JF_YDvxng@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/09/20 18:35, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> The D-Bus specification doesn't detail versioning much. What is
> recommended is to have the version number as part of the interface name
> (kinda like soname):
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/versioning-dbus.html (this is
> documented in several places iirc)
> 
> So a QEMU D-Bus interface could have a name like org.qemu.Qemu51,
> org.qemu.Qemu52.. for example, if we can't provide better API stability...

That would be a problem for backports.

It seems to me that the bindings issue is only a problem if we insist on
having positional arguments like we do for C, but if we can avoid
functions with a zillion arguments we could.  For example in Rust, it's
idiomatic to use the builder pattern

    let thread = thread::Builder::new()
        .name("foo".into())
        .stack_size(65536)
        .spawn(run_thread)?;
    thread.join()?;

and I think the same would work in Go or even C++.  It would look like

   qapi::qga::commands::GuestShutdown::new()
       .mode("halt")
       .invoke_on(qapi_channel)?;

with some kind of double dispatch implementation:

   trait QAPIChannel {
      ...
      fn invoke(command: dyn QAPISerialization)
          -> dyn QAPISerialization;
   }

   impl GuestShutdown {
       fn<T: QAPIChannel> invoke_on(t: T) -> () {
           let args = self.as_qapi_serialization();
           t.invoke(args);
           // could "return from_qapi_serialization(result)", likewise
       }
   }

In Python, you can use keyword arguments and there are even keyword-only
arguments ("def f(*, key1, key2)"), like

    qapi.qga.GuestFileOpen(path="/etc/passwd").invoke_on(qapi_channel);

When you do something like this QMP-style APIs are not a problem.
FlatBuffers is another serialization format that supports this kind of
extensibility (https://google.github.io/flatbuffers/ explicitly compares
it to JSON, even).

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-22 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 17:48 [PATCH] PoC: Rust binding for QAPI (qemu-ga only, for now) marcandre.lureau
2020-09-11 10:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-11 13:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-11 14:00     ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-11 15:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-29 17:55         ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-29 18:23           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-30  9:15             ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-30 14:02               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-11 10:46 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-11 11:03   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-11 11:28   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-11 11:31     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-11 14:19     ` John Snow
2020-09-11 14:17 ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-21  9:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-21  9:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-22 14:59     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-21 10:04   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-22 15:09     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-22 16:35       ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-22 17:08         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-09-29  7:45           ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-29 10:14             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-29 10:34               ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-29 11:00                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-29 11:34                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-30  7:34                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-30  7:51                       ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-30 13:14                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-22 16:52       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-23 11:51         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-21 10:11   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-22 15:37     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-09-22 16:25       ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-09-24  7:31         ` Markus Armbruster

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