From: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
armbru@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv4 15/15] Pass boot device list to firmware.
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:19:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8FfKYQiQOwFXftJON25Vp9fr8o2ETpuuNT_nf@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116072245.GP7948@redhat.com>
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:52:19PM -0500, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 03:36:25PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 08:26:35AM -0500, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:40:08AM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>> > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:40:33PM -0500, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
>> > > > > Why not just return a newline separated list that is null terminated?
>> > > > >
>> > > > Doing it like this will needlessly complicate firmware side. How do you
>> > > > know how much memory to allocate before reading device list?
>> > >
>> > > My preference would be for the size to be exposed via the
>> > > QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR selector. (My preference would be for all objects
>> > > in fw_cfg to have entries in QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR describing their size
>> > > in a reliable manner.)
>> > >
>> > Will interface suggested by Blue will be good for you? The one with two
>> > fw_cfg ids. BOOTINDEX_LEN for len and BOOTINDEX_DATA for device list. I
>>
>> I dislike how different fw_cfg objects pass the length in different
>> ways (eg, QEMU_CFG_E820_TABLE passes length as first 4 bytes). This
>> is a common problem - I'd prefer if we could adopt one uniform way of
>> passing length. I think QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR solves this problem well.
>>
> Looking at available fw cfg option I see that _SIZE _DATA is also a
> common pattern. The problem with QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR is that we have very
> little available slots right now. If we a going to require everything to
> use it we better grow number of available slots considerably now while
> it is easily done (no option defined above file slots yet).
FW_CFG_FILE_DIR seems to be a bit poorly designed. Maybe we should
deprecate it and design a more scalable model. There are also string
variables passed to BIOS (-prom-env for Sparc/PPC) which could then
use this new model instead of NVRAM.
> I personally do not have preferences one way or the other. Blue are you
> OK with using QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR?
That would also work.
>> I also have an ulterior motive here. If the boot order is exposed as
>> a newline separated list via an entry in QEMU_CFG_FILE_DIR, then this
>> becomes free for coreboot users as well. (On coreboot, the boot order
>> could be placed in a "file" in flash with no change to the seabios
>> code.)
>>
> You can define get_boot_order() function and implement it differently
> for qemu and coreboot. For coreboot it will be one linear. Just call
> cbfs_copyfile("bootorder"). BTW why newline separation is important?
Newline and zero are both OK since neither can appear inside a valid boot path.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-16 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-14 15:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 00/15] boot order specification Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 01/15] Introduce fw_name field to DeviceInfo structure Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 02/15] Introduce new BusInfo callback get_fw_dev_path Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 03/15] Keep track of ISA ports ISA device is using in qdev Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 04/15] Add get_fw_dev_path callback to ISA bus " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 05/15] Store IDE bus id in IDEBus structure for easy access Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 06/15] Add get_fw_dev_path callback to IDE bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 07/15] Add get_dev_path callback for system bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 08/15] Add get_fw_dev_path callback for pci bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 18:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 09/15] Record which USBDevice USBPort belongs too Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 10/15] Add get_dev_path callback for usb bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 11/15] Add bootindex parameter to net/block/fd device Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 12/15] Change fw_cfg_add_file() to get full file path as a parameter Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 13/15] Add bootindex for option roms Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 21:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-11-15 10:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 14/15] Add notifier that will be called when machine is fully created Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 15/15] Pass boot device list to firmware Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 18:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 18:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 20:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 20:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 20:49 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-14 20:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 21:13 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-14 21:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 22:50 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-15 8:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 20:29 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-16 14:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-16 18:30 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-16 19:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 21:54 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-18 10:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 11:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 11:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 11:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 12:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 12:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 12:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 13:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 13:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 3:40 ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-15 7:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 7:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-15 8:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 13:26 ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-15 13:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 13:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-16 2:52 ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-16 7:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-16 13:49 ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-16 18:19 ` Blue Swirl [this message]
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