From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Yoshiaki Tamura <tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: ohmura.kei@lab.ntt.co.jp, mtosatti@redhat.com,
stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
dlaor@redhat.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
avi@redhat.com, vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
psuriset@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ananth@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] Kemari for KVM 0.2
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:23:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimTjexV4E2nXCBVd95bj+haYEaPEd64LVua4PNE@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinkN0zrGWGAUOXct9Hu3Xy54iFJXuo-uQUgsYWa@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Yoshiaki Tamura
<tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> 2010/11/27 Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>:
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Yoshiaki Tamura
>> <tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This patch series is a revised version of Kemari for KVM, which
>>> applied comments for the previous post and KVM Forum 2010. The
>>> current code is based on qemu.git
>>> f711df67d611e4762966a249742a5f7499e19f99.
>>>
>>> For general information about Kemari, I've made a wiki page at
>>> qemu.org.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/FaultTolerance
>>>
>>> The changes from v0.1.1 -> v0.2 are:
>>>
>>> - Introduce a queue in event-tap to make VM sync live.
>>> - Change transaction receiver to a state machine for async receiving.
>>> - Replace net/block layer functions with event-tap proxy functions.
>>> - Remove dirty bitmap optimization for now.
>>> - convert DPRINTF() in ft_trans_file to trace functions.
>>> - convert fprintf() in ft_trans_file to error_report().
>>> - improved error handling in ft_trans_file.
>>> - add a tmp pointer to qemu_del_vm_change_state_handler.
>>>
>>> The changes from v0.1 -> v0.1.1 are:
>>>
>>> - events are tapped in net/block layer instead of device emulation layer.
>>> - Introduce a new option for -incoming to accept FT transaction.
>>> - Removed writev() support to QEMUFile and FdMigrationState for now. I would
>>> post this work in a different series.
>>> - Modified virtio-blk save/load handler to send inuse variable to
>>> correctly replay.
>>> - Removed configure --enable-ft-mode.
>>> - Removed unnecessary check for qemu_realloc().
>>>
>>> The first 6 patches modify several functions of qemu to prepare
>>> introducing Kemari specific components.
>>>
>>> The next 6 patches are the components of Kemari. They introduce
>>> event-tap and the FT transaction protocol file based on buffered file.
>>> The design document of FT transaction protocol can be found at,
>>> http://wiki.qemu.org/images/b/b1/Kemari_sender_receiver_0.5a.pdf
>>>
>>> Then the following 4 patches modifies dma-helpers, virtio-blk
>>> virtio-net and e1000 to replace net/block layer functions with
>>> event-tap proxy functions. Please note that if Kemari is off,
>>> event-tap will just passthrough, and there is most no intrusion to
>>> exisiting functions including normal live migration.
>>
>> Would it be possible to make the changes only in the block/net layer,
>> so that the devices are not modified at all? That is, the proxy
>> function would always replaces the unproxied version.
>
> I understand the benefit of your suggestion. However it seems a bit
> tricky. It's because event-tap uses functions of emulators and net,
> but block.c is also linked for utilities like qemu-img that doesn't
> need emulators or net. In the previous version, I added function
> pointers to get around.
>
> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2010-05/msg02378.html
>
> I wasn't confident of this approach and discussed it at KVM Forum, and
> decided to give a try to replace emulator functions with proxies.
> Suggestions are welcomed of course.
>
>> Somehow I find some similarities to instrumentation patches. Perhaps
>> the instrumentation framework could be used (maybe with some changes)
>> for Kemari as well? That could be beneficial to both.
>
> Yes. I had the same idea but I'm not sure how tracing works. I think
> Stefan Hajnoczi knows it better.
>
> Stefan, is it possible to call arbitrary functions from the trace
> points?
Yes, if you add code to ./tracetool. I'm not sure I see the
connection between Kemari and tracing though.
One question I have about Kemari is whether it adds new constraints to
the QEMU codebase? Fault tolerance seems like a cross-cutting concern
- everyone writing device emulation or core QEMU code may need to be
aware of new constraints. For example, "you are not allowed to
release I/O operations to the outside world directly, instead you need
to go through Kemari code which makes I/O transactional and
communicates with the passive host". You have converted e1000,
virtio-net, and virtio-blk. How do we make sure new devices that are
merged into qemu.git don't break Kemari? How do we go about
supporting the existing hw/* devices?
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-27 7:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-25 6:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] Kemari for KVM 0.2 Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] Make QEMUFile buf expandable, and introduce qemu_realloc_buffer() and qemu_clear_buffer() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] Introduce read() to FdMigrationState Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] Introduce skip_header parameter to qemu_loadvm_state() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] qemu-char: export socket_set_nodelay() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] virtio: modify save/load handler to handle inuse varialble Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 11:27 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 11:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-01 8:03 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-02 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-03 6:28 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 7:36 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 9:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 14:28 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 15:59 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-17 16:22 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-24 9:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-24 11:42 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-24 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 9:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 10:14 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 10:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 10:50 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 10:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 10:57 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 12:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 12:16 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] vl: add a tmp pointer so that a handler can delete the entry to which it belongs Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-08 7:03 ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-12-08 8:11 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-08 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] Introduce fault tolerant VM transaction QEMUFile and ft_mode Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] savevm: introduce util functions to control ft_trans_file from savevm layer Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] Introduce event-tap Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 11:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-30 9:50 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 10:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-30 10:20 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 11:02 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 11:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-04 11:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-04 12:20 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 13:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-04 13:45 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 14:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06 8:47 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-06 9:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06 9:41 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
[not found] ` <20101130011914.GA9015@amt.cnet>
2010-11-30 9:28 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 10:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-11-30 10:35 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 13:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] Call init handler of event-tap at main() in vl.c Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] ioport: insert event_tap_ioport() to ioport_write() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 9:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 12:00 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 7:37 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 9:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 9:50 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 16:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-17 16:19 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-18 8:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] dma-helpers: replace bdrv_aio_writev() with bdrv_aio_writev_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 9:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 11:55 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 9:52 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-11-29 12:56 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] virtio-blk: replace bdrv_aio_multiwrite() with bdrv_aio_multiwrite_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] virtio-net: replace qemu_sendv_packet_async() with qemu_sendv_packet_async_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 9:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 11:43 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] e1000: replace qemu_send_packet() with qemu_send_packet_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] savevm: introduce qemu_savevm_trans_{begin, commit} Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] migration: introduce migrate_ft_trans_{put, get}_ready(), and modify migrate_fd_put_ready() when ft_mode is on Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] migration-tcp: modify tcp_accept_incoming_migration() to handle ft_mode, and add a hack not to close fd when ft_mode is enabled Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] Introduce -k option to enable FT migration mode (Kemari) Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25 6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] migration: add a parser to accept FT migration incoming mode Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-26 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] Kemari for KVM 0.2 Blue Swirl
2010-11-27 4:29 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-27 7:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2010-11-27 8:53 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-27 11:03 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-27 12:21 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-27 11:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-27 13:11 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 10:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-29 13:00 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 13:13 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 13:19 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 13:41 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 14:12 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 14:37 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 14:56 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 15:00 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 15:56 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 16:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-29 16:41 ` Dor Laor
2010-11-29 16:53 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 17:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 17:18 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 17:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 7:13 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 6:43 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 9:13 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-11-27 11:20 ` Paul Brook
2010-11-27 12:35 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
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