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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Christian Brunner <chb@muc.de>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 06:28:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimwt6XgIVRc7CC-aN--bmhg1xsDpo0MHUWEd5Ri@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinlpdEK-vqMYkYwvWT-tZBpfn2FZHi6LUiS5cPz@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Christian Brunner <chb@muc.de> wrote:
> 2010/5/20 Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>:
>> Both sheepdog and ceph ultimately transmit I/O over a socket to a central
>> daemon, right?  So could we not standardize a protocol for this that both
>> sheepdog and ceph could implement?
>
> There is no central daemon. The concept is that they talk to many
> storage nodes at the same time. Data is distributed and replicated
> over many nodes in the network. The mechanism to do this is quite
> complex. I don't know about sheepdog, but in Ceph this is called RADOS
> (reliable autonomic distributed object store). Sheepdog and Ceph may
> look similar, but this is where they act different. I don't think that
> it would be possible to implement a common protocol.

I believe Sheepdog has a local daemon on each node.  The QEMU storage
backend talks to the daemon on the same node, which then does the real
network communication with the rest of the distributed storage system.
 So I think we're not talking about a network protocol here, we're
talking about a common interface that can be used by QEMU and other
programs to take advantage of Ceph, Sheepdog, etc services available
on the local node.

Haven't looked into your patch enough yet, but does librados talk
directly over the network or does it connect to a local daemon/driver?

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-21  5:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19 19:22 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 20:31 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-20 21:18   ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 21:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-20 22:16       ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-21  5:28         ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2010-05-21  6:13           ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-21  5:54         ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-23 12:01       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24  7:12         ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:05           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 11:42             ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:56               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 12:07                 ` Cláudio Martins
2010-05-24 14:01                 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 19:07                   ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-24 19:38                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25  9:14                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:17                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:25                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:29                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:54                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:57                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:02                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26  8:44                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:01                             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 16:21                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 17:12                                 ` Sage Weil
2010-05-26  5:24                                   ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-26  8:46                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:16                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25  9:19                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:26                   ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24  8:27         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-24 11:03           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:19             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25  9:22               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 11:02         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 11:25           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 12:03             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-25 12:13               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:25             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:31               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:38                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:05                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:01                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:16                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:21                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:27                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:53               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 13:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:03                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:02                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:09                   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 15:01                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-20 23:02   ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-23  7:59     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24  2:17       ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-25 20:13         ` Blue Swirl

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