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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, Corey Bryant <bryntcor@us.ibm.com>,
	Tyler C Hicks <tchicks@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add support for fd: protocol
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:19:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=HmjV5b_hKM3B-4O8Ub6JE-waXLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110523094558.GA24143@redhat.com>

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Daniel P. Berrange
<berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 02:48:23PM -0400, Corey Bryant wrote:
>> sVirt provides SELinux MAC isolation for Qemu guest processes and their
>> corresponding resources (image files). sVirt provides this support
>> by labeling guests and resources with security labels that are stored
>> in file system extended attributes. Some file systems, such as NFS, do
>> not support the extended attribute security namespace, which is needed
>> for image file isolation when using the sVirt SELinux security driver
>> in libvirt.
>>
>> The proposed solution entails a combination of Qemu, libvirt, and
>> SELinux patches that work together to isolate multiple guests' images
>> when they're stored in the same NFS mount. This results in an
>> environment where sVirt isolation and NFS image file isolation can both
>> be provided.
>>
>> Currently, Qemu opens an image file in addition to performing the
>> necessary read and write operations. The proposed solution will move
>> the open out of Qemu and into libvirt. Once libvirt opens an image
>> file for the guest, it will pass the file descriptor to Qemu via a
>> new fd: protocol.
>>
>> If the image file resides in an NFS mount, the following SELinux policy
>> changes will provide image isolation:
>>
>>   - A new SELinux boolean is created (e.g. virt_read_write_nfs) to
>>     allow Qemu (svirt_t) to only have SELinux read and write
>>     permissions on nfs_t files
>>
>>   - Qemu (svirt_t) also gets SELinux use permissions on libvirt
>>     (virtd_t) file descriptors
>>
>> Following is a sample invocation of Qemu using the fd: protocol:
>>
>>     qemu -drive file=fd:4,format=qcow2
>>
>> This patch contains the Qemu code to support this solution. I would
>> like to solicit input from the libvirt community prior to starting
>> the libvirt patch.
>>
>> This patch was tested with the following formats: raw, cow, qcow,
>> qcow2, vmdk, using the fd: protocol as well as existing file name
>> support. Non-valid file descriptors were also tested.
>
> How can backing files work ?  The '-drive' syntax doesn't provide
> any way to set properties against the backing files (which may be
> nested to arbitrary depth).  AFAICT, we need to the often discussed
> -blockdev advanced syntax to be able to set a 'fd' property against
> nested backing files.  I'm not sure it is worth supporting fd: if
> we only have -drive syntax, since backing files are an important
> feature for most mgmt apps.
>
> Also, there are a few places in QEMU, where it re-opens the existing
> block driver on the fly. What is the plan for supporting this, without
> having QEMU block on waiting for libvirt to pass it a new FD ?

QEMU could ask for a file over QMP.  So you bootstrap it using fd: but
when a reopen or backing file is needed, QEMU raises a
QEVENT_BLOCK_REQUEST_FILE event.  Of course waiting around for the
reopen to complete it not ideal as it may temporarily pause the guest.

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-23 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20 18:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add support for fd: protocol Corey Bryant
2011-05-20 19:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 19:25 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-20 19:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 19:53     ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-23 14:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2011-05-23 15:24         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 15:56           ` Kevin Wolf
2011-05-23 19:50             ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-23 21:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 18:20           ` Corey Bryant
2011-05-23  9:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 10:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2011-05-23 10:30     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 12:59       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:35         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 22:49           ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-24  8:39             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-24 15:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-23 12:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 13:06     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 13:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-23 13:21       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 13:26         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-23 13:42           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23  9:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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