From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com,
Venkateswararao Jujjuri <jvrao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [0/25] Async threading for VirtFS using glib threads & coroutines.
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 08:16:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimmeOLQWiN6kyerYbKCE=kLw9jLow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110524210025.GT969@shareable.org>
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> Venkateswararao Jujjuri wrote:
>> This model makes the code simple and also in one shot we can convert
>> all v9fs_do_syscalls into asynchronous threads. But as Aneesh raised
>> will there be any additional overhead for the additional jumps? We
>> can quickly test it out too.
>
> I'm not sure if this is exactly the right place (I haven't followed
> the whole discussion), but there is a useful trick for getting rid of
> one of the thread context switches:
>
> Swizzle *which* thread is your "main" coroutine thread.
>
> Instead of queuing up an item on the work queue, waking the worker
> thread pool, and having a worker thread pick up the coroutine, you:
>
> Declare the current thread to *be* a worker through from this point,
> and queue the calling context for a worker thread to pick up. When it
> picks it up, *that* thread declares itself to be the main thread
> coroutine thread.
>
> So the coroutine entry step is just queuing a context for another
> thread to pick up, and then diving into the blocking system call
> (optimising out the enqueue/dequeue and thread switch).
>
> In a sense, you make the "main" thread a long-lived work queue entry,
> and have a symmetric pool, except that the main thread tends to behave
> differently than the other work items.
>
> This only works if the main thread's state is able to follow the
> swizzling. I don't know if KVM VCPUs will do that, for example, or if
> there's other per-thread state that won't work.
>
> If the main thread can't be swizzled, you can still use this trick
> when doing the coroutine->syscall step starting form an existing
> worker thread.
The point of this trick is to reduce the latency of issuing the
blocking operation? You still have to tell another thread that it has
now become the main thread, so this seems like an optimization biased
towards I/O latency at the expense of main loop performance.
If the "main" thread is a vcpu thread, I'm not sure we want to
schedule another thread to become the vcpu thread since this adds an
unbounded time until the new vcpu thread is scheduled. The vcpu
thread is supposed to be non-blocking so that we don't steal time from
the guest and pause execution.
Stefan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-25 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-12 20:57 [Qemu-devel] [0/25] Async threading for VirtFS using glib threads & coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/25] [virtio-9p] Add infrastructure to support glib threads and coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-13 5:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-13 15:47 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri
2011-05-13 15:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/25] [virtio-9p] Change all pdu handlers to coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-13 6:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/25] [virtio-9p] Remove post functions for v9fs_readlink Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/25] [virtio-9p] clean up v9fs_readlink Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/25] [virtio-9p] Move errno into v9fs_do_readlink Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-13 8:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/25] [virtio-9p] coroutines for readlink Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/25] [virtio-9p] Remove post functions for v9fs_mkdir Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/25] [virtio-9p] clean up v9fs_mkdir Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] hw/9pfs: Add yield support for readdir related coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_readdir to use coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/25] hw/9pfs: Add yield support to statfs coroutine Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_statfs to use coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/25] hw/9pfs: Add yield support to lstat coroutine Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_getattr to use coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/25] hw/9pfs: Add yield support to setattr related coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_setattr to use coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/25] hw/9pfs: Add yield support to xattr related coroutine Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_xattrwalk to coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_xattrcreate to use coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/25] hw/9pfs: Add yield support to mknod coroutine Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/25] hw/9pfs: Update v9fs_mknod to use coroutines Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/25] [virtio-9p] coroutine and threading for mkdir Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/25] [virtio-9p] Remove post functions for v9fs_remove Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/25] [virtio-9p] clean up v9fs_remove Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-12 20:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/25] [virtio-9p] coroutine and threading for remove/unlink Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2011-05-13 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [0/25] Async threading for VirtFS using glib threads & coroutines Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-13 16:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-13 19:26 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-05-14 0:18 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri
2011-05-14 1:29 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri
2011-05-14 6:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-24 21:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-25 7:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
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