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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	Julian Pidancet <julian.pidancet@citrix.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add QEMU DirectFB display driver
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 00:59:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C7DF695B-88C2-4CEA-BDCF-03F7B670581F@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF1C93B.70603@codemonkey.ws>


On 18.05.2010, at 00:54, Anthony Liguori wrote:

> On 05/17/2010 05:49 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>  Then we could still offer a separate SDL based viewer that could do the same things it does now. But we'd also open up the gate for a whole new integration level with possible GUIs.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>> You could, but I think it introduces more complexity which just is going to get in the way of building a good GUI.
>>>     
>> The main benefit I see by taking an always-vnc approach would be that everything becomes 100% networkable. There's nothing getting in your way because you're doing things on a remote machine. And you even get the same look&feel you got from the local connection because it's the same tool connecting you.
>>   
> 
> My current thinking with GUIs is that network transparency is more trouble than it's worth.
> 
> The problem is, simple things end up being overly complicated.  You can't just pop up a file dialog box to select a new CD-ROM ISO because you can't browse files on a remote machine.  Instead, you need to have something like a "pool" concept or something like that.

Yeah - VMware solved that by showing you a dialog with the remote file system. Pretty ugly.
Another solution to that would be to only enable the dialog box when target == localhost.

As soon as we look at server workloads, we do need to have network transparency. But I guess most of this talk is moot anyways, since we have VNC now. So if there is someone willing to take up on a GUI, he can just do so the same as he could with a unified backend.


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-13 15:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add QEMU DirectFB display driver Julian Pidancet
2010-05-16  1:10 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-16  1:14   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 13:30   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 15:09     ` Julian Pidancet
2010-05-17 16:28       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 20:20   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-17 20:32     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 21:35       ` malc
2010-05-17 21:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 21:45           ` malc
2010-05-17 22:26             ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 22:42               ` malc
2010-05-17 22:47                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 22:55                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 23:17                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 22:46               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 22:49                 ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 22:54                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 22:59                     ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2010-05-18  0:26                 ` [Qemu-devel] qemu usage K D
2010-05-18  8:09           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add QEMU DirectFB display driver Kevin Wolf
2010-05-18  9:12             ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-05-18  9:23               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-18  9:29                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-05-18  9:39                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-18 10:34                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-05-18 11:20                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-18 13:02             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-18 22:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-19 12:06   ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-05-19 13:38     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-19 13:52       ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-05-19 15:22         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-19 15:30           ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-05-19 16:06         ` Julian Pidancet
2010-05-19 16:30           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-20  7:32             ` Gerd Hoffmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-14 16:20 Julian Pidancet
2010-05-14 16:58 Julian Pidancet
2010-05-14 17:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 10:58   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-17 10:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-17 12:04   ` Julian Pidancet
2010-05-17 19:25     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-17 11:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-17 12:14   ` Julian Pidancet
2010-05-17 12:35     ` Christoph Hellwig

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