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From: Luke Gorrie <lukego@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: "snabb-devel@googlegroups.com" <snabb-devel@googlegroups.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] snabbswitch integration with QEMU for userspace ethernet I/O
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:29:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2XHbdZKDLQDE02cK_DbTFFC6echCXtkC5XWmDRMbbFeHFJkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130528115843.GB15905@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

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Hi all,

Back in May we talked about efficiently connecting a user-space Ethernet
switch to QEMU guests. Stefan Hajnoczi sketched the design of a userspace
version of vhost that uses a Unix socket for its control interface. His
design is in the mail quoted below.

I'd like to ask you: if this feature were properly implemented and
maintained, would you guys accept it into qemu?

If so then I will work with a good QEMU hacker to develop it.

also, have there been any new developments in this area (vhost-net and
userspace ethernet I/O) that we should take into account?

On 28 May 2013 13:58, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:10:50PM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote:
> > On 27 May 2013 11:34, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > vhost_net is about connecting the a virtio-net speaking process to a
> > > tun-like device.  The problem you are trying to solve is connecting a
> > > virtio-net speaking process to Snabb Switch.
> > >
> >
> > Yep!
> >
> >
> > > Either you need to replace vhost or you need a tun-like device
> > > interface.
> > >
> > > Replacing vhost would mean that your switch implements virtio-net,
> > > shares guest RAM with the guest, and shares the ioeventfd and irqfd
> > > which are used to signal with the guest.
> >
> >
> > This would be a great solution from my perspective. This is the design
> that
> > I am now struggling to find a good implementation strategy for.
>
> The switch needs 3 resources for direct virtio-net communication with
> the guest:
>
> 1. Shared memory access to guest physical memory for guest physical to
>    host userspace address translation.  vhost and data plane
>    automatically guest access to guest memory and they learn about
>    memory layout using the MemoryListener interface in QEMU (see
>    hw/virtio/vhost.c:vhost_region_add() and friends).
>
> 2. Virtqueue kick notifier (ioeventfd) so the switch knows when the
>    guest signals the host.  See virtio_queue_get_host_notifier(vq).
>
> 3. Guest interrupt notifier (irqfd) so the switch can signal the guest.
>    See virtio_queue_get_guest_notifier(vq).
>
> I don't have a detailed suggestion for how to interface the switch and
> QEMU processes.  It may be necessary to communicate back and forth (to
> handle the virtio device lifecycle) so a UNIX domain socket would be
> appropriate for passing file descriptors.  Here is a rough idea:
>
> $ switch --listen-path=/var/run/switch.sock
> $ qemu --device virtio-net-pci,switch=/var/run/switch.sock
>
> On QEMU startup:
>
> (switch socket) add_port --id="qemu-$PID" --session-persistence
>
> (Here --session-persistence means that the port will be automatically
> destroyed if the switch socket session is terminated because the UNIX
> domain socket is closed by QEMU.)
>
> On virtio device status transition to DRIVER_OK:
>
> (switch socket) configure_port --id="qemu-$PID"
>                                --mem=/tmp/shm/qemu-$PID
>                                --ioeventfd=2
>                                --irqfd=3
>
> On virtio device status transition from DRIVER_OK:
>
> (switch socket) deconfigure_port --id="qemu-$PID"
>
> I skipped a bunch of things:
>
> 1. virtio-net has several virtqueues so you need multiple ioeventfds.
>
> 2. QEMU needs to communicate memory mapping information, this gets
>    especially interesting with memory hotplug.  Memory is more
>    complicated than a single shmem blob.
>
> 3. Multiple NICs per guest should be supported.
>
> Stefan
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2013-10-21 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-26  9:32 [Qemu-devel] snabbswitch integration with QEMU for userspace ethernet I/O Luke Gorrie
2013-05-27  9:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-27 15:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-27 15:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 16:18     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-27 16:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 17:01         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-27 17:13           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-27 18:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 10:39       ` Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 10:10   ` Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 10:35     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-28 11:36     ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 11:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 12:09         ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 13:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 15:35             ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 15:44               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 12:48         ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:276] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 13:12           ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 13:42             ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:280] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 14:42         ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:276] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 15:33           ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 17:00       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 18:55           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 10:31             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-05-29 12:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 13:04                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04 12:19               ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:300] " Luke Gorrie
2013-06-04 12:49                 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-06-04 20:09                   ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:326] " Luke Gorrie
2013-06-04 12:56                 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:300] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05  6:09                   ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:327] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-29  7:49           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29  9:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:21               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 14:48                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:02                 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-30  2:35                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-05-30  6:46                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-30  6:55                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  7:11                     ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:308] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-30  8:08                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Julian Stecklina
2013-05-29 12:32         ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-29 14:31           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 15:59             ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 11:58     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-10-21 10:29       ` Luke Gorrie [this message]

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