From: Luke Gorrie <lukego@gmail.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "snabb-devel@googlegroups.com" <snabb-devel@googlegroups.com>,
stefanha@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] snabbswitch integration with QEMU for userspace ethernet I/O
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:32:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2XHbf4zH-PR827Wwj9z-C-An0+7Ag8_muRS4zsRqVUo7Sb6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Dear qemu-devel hackers,
I am writing to ask for some technical advice. I am making embarrassingly
slow progress on finding a good way to integrate the Snabb Switch
user-space ethernet switch (http://snabb.co/snabbswitch/) with QEMU for
efficient ethernet I/O.
Stefan put us onto the highly promising track of vhost/virtio. We have
implemented this between Snabb Switch and the Linux kernel, but not
directly between Snabb Switch and QEMU guests. The "roadblock" we have hit
is embarrasingly basic: QEMU is using user-to-kernel system calls to setup
vhost (open /dev/net/tun and /dev/vhost-net, ioctl()s) and I haven't found
a good way to map these towards Snabb Switch instead of the kernel.
We have several ideas on the table and we would love some technical
feedback on what sounds like a good way forward -- ideally a better
alternative that we haven't thought of at all, not being QEMU gurus
ourselves.
Here are the ideas on the table right now:
1. Use FUSE to implement a complete clone of /dev/net/tun and
/dev/vhost-net inside Snabb Switch. Implement every ioctl() that QEMU
requires.
2. Extend QEMU to support a user-user IPC mode of vhost. In this mode QEMU
would not use ioctl() etc but some other system calls that are appropriate
for IPC between user-space processes.
3. Use the kernel as a middle-man. Create a double-ended "veth" interface
and have Snabb Switch and QEMU each open a PF_PACKET socket and accelerate
it with VHOST_NET.
#1 is appealing _if_ it can really be done. Risk is that we hit a
road-block when implementing the behavior of the ioctl()s, for example have
trouble mapping guest memory or getting hold of an eventfd, and that FUSE
is kinda heavy-weight.
#2 is appealing _if_ it can be done in a nice way. I don't know which
system calls would be appropriate and I don't know how to write the code
inside QEMU in a neat way.
#3 is appealing _if_ there is no significant overhead e.g. an extra memory
copy inside the kernel, or if it's really quick to do as a temporary
stop-gap.
We would love some words of wisdom about the options above and/or a new
idea :-)
Cheers,
-Luke
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next reply other threads:[~2013-05-26 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-26 9:32 Luke Gorrie [this message]
2013-05-27 9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] snabbswitch integration with QEMU for userspace ethernet I/O Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-27 15:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-27 15:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 16:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-27 16:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-27 17:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-27 17:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-27 18:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 10:39 ` Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 10:10 ` Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 10:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-28 11:36 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 12:09 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 15:35 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 15:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 12:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:276] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 13:12 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:280] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 14:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:276] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-28 15:33 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 18:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 10:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-05-29 12:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 13:04 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04 12:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:300] " Luke Gorrie
2013-06-04 12:49 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-06-04 20:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:326] " Luke Gorrie
2013-06-04 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:300] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 6:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:327] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-29 7:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 9:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 14:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:02 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-30 2:35 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-05-30 6:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-30 6:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 7:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel:308] " Luke Gorrie
2013-05-30 8:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Julian Stecklina
2013-05-29 12:32 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-29 14:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-05-29 15:59 ` Julian Stecklina
2013-05-28 11:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-10-21 10:29 ` Luke Gorrie
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