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From: Sam Li <faithilikerun@gmail.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, hare@suse.de,
	Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	dmitry.fomichev@wdc.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] qcow2: add zoned emulation capability
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 14:27:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAAx-8J3TUanrC+-tpTO+xYYXH031S2AeirNAkdDE7wtGrT63g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c167bfe-2b93-358d-8e13-9e4fc1016766@kernel.org>

Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org> 于2023年8月29日周二 14:06写道:
>
> On 8/28/23 20:55, Sam Li wrote:
> >>> +            /* close one implicitly open zones to make it available */
> >>> +            for (int i = s->zoned_header.zone_nr_conv;
> >>> +            i < bs->bl.nr_zones; ++i) {
> >>> +                uint64_t *wp = &s->wps->wp[i];
> >>> +                if (qcow2_get_zs(*wp) == BLK_ZS_IOPEN) {
> >>> +                    ret = qcow2_write_wp_at(bs, wp, i, BLK_ZS_CLOSED);
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if it's correct to store the zone state persistently in
> >> the qcow2 file. If the guest or QEMU crashes, then zones will be left in
> >> states like EOPEN. Since the guest software will have forgotten about
> >> explicitly opened zones, the guest would need to recover zone states.
> >> I'm not sure if existing software is designed to do that.
> >>
> >> Damien: Should the zone state be persistent?
>
> Yes and no. Yes you need to preserve/maintain zone states but not as is.
> With a real drive, if you power cycle the device, you get the following states
> changes:
>
>  Before         | After power cycle
> ----------------+-------------------
>  EMPTY          | EMPTY
>  FULL           | FULL
>  IMP. OPEN      | CLOSED
>  EXP. OPEN      | CLOSED
>  CLOSED         | CLOSED
>  READ=ONLY      | READ-ONLY
>  OFFLINE        | OFFLINE
>
> So any open (implicit or explicit) zone will show up as closed after power
> cycle. That is, the number of "active" zones does not change.
> For the qcow2 emulation, as long as you do not also emulate read-only and
> offline zones, you actually do not need to save the zone state in the zone
> metadata. On startup, you can infer the state from the zone write pointer:
>
> zone wp == zone start -> EMPTY
> zone wp >= zone capacity -> FULL
> zone wp > zone start -> CLOSED
>
> And make sure that all closed zones are counted as the initial number of active
> zones. The initial number of open zones will always be 0.
>
> So it is easy :)

Thanks for the explanations!

Read-only and offline are device internal events. Does qcow2 emulation
need to emulate that?

Current NVMe ZNS emulation in QEMU has a nvme_offline_zone() function.
Does it suggest keeping the offline state persistent?
https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/hw/nvme/ctrl.c#L3740

Sam


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-29  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-14  8:57 [PATCH v2 0/4] Add full zoned storage emulation to qcow2 driver Sam Li
2023-08-14  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] docs/qcow2: add the zoned format feature Sam Li
2023-08-14  8:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] qcow2: add configurations for zoned format extension Sam Li
2023-08-16 19:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-21 13:13   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-08-28  9:05     ` Sam Li
2023-08-21 13:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-28  9:22     ` Sam Li
2023-08-28 10:12       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-08-28 10:18         ` Sam Li
2023-08-28 10:22           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-08-28 10:40             ` Sam Li
2023-08-28 14:42     ` Sam Li
2023-08-14  8:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] qcow2: add zoned emulation capability Sam Li
2023-08-16 21:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-22 19:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-28 11:55     ` Sam Li
2023-08-29  6:06       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-08-29  6:27         ` Sam Li [this message]
2023-08-29  7:14           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-08-29  7:27             ` Sam Li
2023-08-14  8:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] iotests: test the zoned format feature for qcow2 file Sam Li
2023-08-22 19:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-16  7:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Add full zoned storage emulation to qcow2 driver Klaus Jensen
2023-08-16  8:14   ` Sam Li
2023-08-16 18:03     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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