From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4D20C433F5 for ; Thu, 12 May 2022 10:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55076 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1np5yN-0004At-KU for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 06:23:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1np5bg-0000Qj-Fe for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 05:59:40 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com ([209.85.219.176]:35684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1np5ba-0003gl-SS for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2022 05:59:37 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id w187so8803534ybe.2 for ; Thu, 12 May 2022 02:59:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iyH5VRjciXSqTghLdqQ+s+tLamMfaXcI2dOcSvLzOwM=; b=yKzFBRK1tHZ1AvnYsre0G9kXbC3zp0qKAdAkFHrUVwIv3SccuPwJCK0GSYYOox1GsD 7n1l4orKyMs+/2UO/IFeElMm8ziApXsSchXyHBekDetZhG43e+fwjiHcSRiK/K6qgo11 irLs6zHh2hJjQ82hdW8KIT8238zE+8LcJLuiKizbi1GBkiqicl274jab0sGBtaHWDAt3 a4zeKKknLWj6GYAjbv0m0Tep9IYX86CfVPWdlYFuQPGymql2IJDndCsHlQHioBYkBZ3o TcG0yvBS3sTslQFgDx5QZ1BXxeYQ3vZj3yZoU39BlXdtO+CVGiuy8m/D9pQN7mLS9myN oH7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532umHcJj0vafkTfidx/cjTRbQ1JADIMQxq8i0eplkOPNbj+7KCp Csjy+SLbNttxEI06JNycJBtsvoCA0Ck7s3cYWH4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyAG8oqrZh35GfpuqRA3iL/ADaZXeJB6civOY//SutHwAtetVfLh8QmtQa63nYo0SuKX8ZzNddbgejN/+4ZEas= X-Received: by 2002:a25:b7d3:0:b0:64a:f307:fd91 with SMTP id u19-20020a25b7d3000000b0064af307fd91mr16016595ybj.177.1652349573384; Thu, 12 May 2022 02:59:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220510195612.677494-1-thuth@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 11:59:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove Ubuntu 18.04 support from the repository To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2E_Berrang=C3=A9?= Cc: Thomas Huth , Fam Zheng , Robert Foley , =?UTF-8?B?QWxleCBCZW5uw6ll?= , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" , Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Beraldo Leal , Gerd Hoffmann , Richard Henderson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.176; envelope-from=philippe.mathieu.daude@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f176.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" Reply-to: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= From: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= via On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:21 AM Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wro= te: > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:15 PM Thomas Huth wrote: > > > On 11/05/2022 13.13, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:03 PM Thomas Huth wrot= e: > > > >> On 11/05/2022 12.46, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: > > > >>> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 11:30 AM Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 09:56:12PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > > > >>>>> According to our "Supported build platforms" policy, we now do = not support > > > >>>>> Ubuntu 18.04 anymore. Remove the related files and entries from= our CI. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth > > > >>>>> --- > > > >>>>> Seems like nobody touched the 18.04-based tests/vm/ubuntu* f= iles in a > > > >>>>> very long time, so I assume these are not used anymore and c= an completely > > > >>>>> be removed now. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Or it could mean that they are working fine and so haven't neede= d > > > >>>> changes... > > > >>> > > > >>> Yes :) > > > >> > > > >> At least for me "make vm-build-ubuntu.aarch64" is only failing wit= h ssh > > > >> timeouts (on my x86 laptop) ... is this really supposed to work wi= th TCG, or > > > >> is this KVM (on arm hosts) only? > > > > > > > > Yes this timeout code is not working. I suppose it is tied to the T= CG host perf. > > > > I suggested a pair of patches to increase it but back then Fam didn= 't accepted > > > > them because IIRC these VMs were used by patchew (previous to Gitla= b). > > > > Today we have better framework for testing, so I wouldn't use this = script on > > > > CI, but it is still valuable for manual testing. > > > > > > > > Robert's email doesn't work anymore. Since I don't have x86 worksta= tion > > > > anymore, I'll probably use these tests/vm for testing. So let me ad= d a > > > > "upgrade tests/vm/ubuntu to 22.04" to my TODO list. If I fail and n= obody > > > > miss them, then I won't object to remove them. > > > > So, 18.04 is the latest LTS release for 32-bit x86 (i386). > > > > IIRC we used this 32-bit VM to reproduce bugs only triggered on 32-bit = hosts > > (while it seems obvious, what is not obvious is that very few developer= s run > > on 32-bit hosts, so I'm not sure how long we are interested in avoiding= bugs > > there). See i.e.: > > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/07a865e0-d535-9a19-cf29-f90984bcd510= @amsat.org/ > > At some point we'll need to just admit 32-bit host is dead, and that > point is getting ever closer. For now though, if we need a VM for > 32-bit testing, the easiest answer is probably to tweak the VM config to > be Debian based, as that's functionally closest to what Ubuntu provides > and so likely not too much work. Thanks for the tip, great idea!