From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD6D8C77B61 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 08:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1prx2L-0007nm-Hl; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 04:31:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1prx2F-0007nO-K8 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 04:31:27 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1prx22-0002IL-On for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 04:31:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1682584274; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=9AefsbERDd9tqz90wFlSN3Ca0O2JSwxgbn8w0x+/zc0=; b=M5C3usTflXY57QB0/Y/OOmVyXqQC890OYhXOIwWhRbBUl0wqqLzykIBA03EhApPDRkFHD6 SpXwq1+eiJIKPVHtaWlkesVxLxZqyyExtigPZJyPiLGB+ys/KsfsoJj/Vqyn9Gr4aJIdtv nKKCVdz+Fi8k/AucDNWFxfYpEdHaJS4= Received: from mail-ua1-f72.google.com (mail-ua1-f72.google.com [209.85.222.72]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-228-7GpKZ8tWNUKiQqEL65Pk5w-1; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 04:31:12 -0400 X-MC-Unique: 7GpKZ8tWNUKiQqEL65Pk5w-1 Received: by mail-ua1-f72.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-77aad9af412so3300275241.0 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 01:31:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1682584272; x=1685176272; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9AefsbERDd9tqz90wFlSN3Ca0O2JSwxgbn8w0x+/zc0=; b=PXrJvcGKxitGXWle6lX+A6QdLa36JemURvLcLZO8QNrQT8F3Mk9oaMf65PW56jz+Ht qaR9/vfRTpG6FNO+zIKIcl3B86v4qA3+lb1T31apyy/oViqlsihknmaHD+CzSooK68zo qxi2aRdQiNb1ZHCRLZGpRGjhztbCUNcAdl77z/VdFZEbI1p5Yy+zgsdpCQIruSELVbMn /mBUnCEaoqLK1QH667Fj+OFIl5/+QiYJPOm/i3U1p0poOipO8eaGEqMm88A4ySA1A1/P vnpb8qqcO3pK098RpZVjcKyceUCKjk8459qzyOvMwhdtzIuMmHjitSafMGkOSfCiZUsM zN/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDz6Baz+RPuPRZ3+7dbSCcbSOXVCCCydZtRnLAkV6Ts/Yn3SQZlR RS7LiT/e0QFhrPj31qnf2lbrELFLdoxVzsFuuTT0GkEmY7WzICWt+Zlz/7K9ZxdeLfraXfnojsD xzgSQJx9LXsV5uAVerdiwD+W6w2nSjRo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:cc7:b0:42f:e8ba:c448 with SMTP id g7-20020a0561020cc700b0042fe8bac448mr2055726vst.16.1682584272015; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 01:31:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6AxdmRUP/58ZCupx+r9EuFmAZ6gW+5yKQJje39ksjfqzTmnjDKqz9wR19q20b8bo7s7m2JEeginxyFlRZs5gY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:cc7:b0:42f:e8ba:c448 with SMTP id g7-20020a0561020cc700b0042fe8bac448mr2055714vst.16.1682584271745; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 01:31:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230425133851.489283-1-thuth@redhat.com> <5fc11d22-275d-cc8d-bf9c-f1c015cbee23@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: From: Paolo Bonzini Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:31:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Deprecate the qemu-system-i386 binary To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2E_Berrang=C3=A9?= Cc: Thomas Huth , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= , Marcel Apfelbaum , Yanan Wang Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=pbonzini@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -22 X-Spam_score: -2.3 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.171, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:28=E2=80=AFAM Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 wrote: > > I wonder if we should take this a step further and rename qemu-system-x= 86_64 > > to qemu-system-x86! Distros can if they wish create symlinks to both > > qemu-system-i386 and qemu-system-x86_64. > > I can't help feeling this just creates a new upgrade burden for distros > for no obvious win. We can create the symlinks on install as well during the deprecation period. It doesn't have to be done by distros. For me, the main benefit of implementing -x86 for system emulation is that we need to move user-mode emulation to the x86_64 backend anyway. And the less difference between the two emulation scenarios, the better. Paolo > Things have gone quite recently, but if we introduce next-generation > QEMU system emulator binary which is 100% QMP based, I think that would > be the ideal time to change naming convention to -x86 > > With regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberran= ge :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.c= om :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberran= ge :| >