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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Cc: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, alex@shazbot.org,  clg@redhat.com,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com,
	 ddutile@redhat.com, jgg@nvidia.com, nicolinc@nvidia.com,
	 skolothumtho@nvidia.com, joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
	 clement.mathieu--drif@eviden.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	chao.p.peng@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/23] intel_iommu: Delete RPS capability related supporting code
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:33:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEuBNf6wRPOrprbUDBUnWVieaKEXMRhpJhFhTszznsCTHA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4618ef6c-9f54-45bf-a95c-5f813f9a2365@intel.com>

On Thu, Dec 11, 2025 at 6:57 PM Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 2025/12/11 16:22, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 5:38 PM Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> RID-PASID Support(RPS) is not set in vIOMMU ECAP register, the supporting
> >> code is there but never takes effect.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, according to VTD spec section 3.4.3:
> >> "Implementations not supporting RID_PASID capability (ECAP_REG.RPS is 0b),
> >> use a PASID value of 0 to perform address translation for requests without
> >> PASID."
> >>
> >> We should delete the supporting code which fetches RID_PASID field from
> >> scalable context entry and use 0 as RID_PASID directly, because RID_PASID
> >> field is ignored if no RPS support according to spec.
> >>
> >> This simplifies the code and doesn't bring any penalty.
> >>
> >> Suggested-by: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>
> >> ---
> >
> > Is the feature deprecated in the spec? If not, it should be still
> > better to enable it.
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> The feature is still in the spec. However, using PASID#0 for the
> requests without pasid is aligned across vendors. So the linux iommu
> subsystem uses PASID#0 to differentiate the pasid path and non-pasid
> path like below:
>
> commit bc06f7f66de404ae6323963361fe4e2f5f71a1e5
> Author: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
> Date:   Fri Mar 21 10:19:26 2025 -0700
>
>      iommufd/device: Only add reserved_iova in non-pasid path
>
>      As the pasid is passed through the attach/replace/detach helpers, it is
>      necessary to ensure only the non-pasid path adds reserved_iova.
>
>      Link:
> https://patch.msgid.link/r/20250321171940.7213-5-yi.l.liu@intel.com
>      Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>      Reviewed-by: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
>      Reviewed-by: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
>      Reviewed-by: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
>      Signed-off-by: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
>      Tested-by: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
>      Signed-off-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>
> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/iommufd/device.c b/drivers/iommu/iommufd/device.c
> index 7051feda2fab..4625f084f7d0 100644
> --- a/drivers/iommu/iommufd/device.c
> +++ b/drivers/iommu/iommufd/device.c
> @@ -483,6 +483,7 @@ int iommufd_hw_pagetable_attach(struct
> iommufd_hw_pagetable *hwpt,
>                                  struct iommufd_device *idev, ioasid_t
> pasid)
>   {
>          struct iommufd_hwpt_paging *hwpt_paging = find_hwpt_paging(hwpt);
> +       bool attach_resv = hwpt_paging && pasid == IOMMU_NO_PASID;
>          int rc;
>
>
> So even though intel hardware report RPS=1, the linux intel iommu
> driver uses PASID#0 as rid_pasid and ignores the RPS value.

Probably, but we need to support OSes other than Linux.

> So
> I don't think we will ever report RPS=1 to VM. Also, as Zhenzhong's
> commit message states, current vIOMMU does not report RPS, the logic to
> retrieve rid_pasid from context entry is not necessary as well. Based on
> the fact, I think it is nice to drop the support. Please let us know if
> you have other ideas.

I'm fine to drop that, just want to double check if it's worth keeping
with an option to enable it.

Thanks

>
> Regards,
> Yi Liu
>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-15  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-17  9:37 [PATCH v8 00/23] intel_iommu: Enable first stage translation for passthrough device Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] intel_iommu: Rename vtd_ce_get_rid2pasid_entry to vtd_ce_get_pasid_entry Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] intel_iommu: Delete RPS capability related supporting code Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 10:57   ` Eric Auger
2025-12-11  8:22   ` Jason Wang
2025-12-11 11:04     ` Yi Liu
2025-12-15  7:33       ` Jason Wang [this message]
2025-12-15  9:07         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] intel_iommu: Update terminology to match VTD spec Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] hw/pci: Export pci_device_get_iommu_bus_devfn() and return bool Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] hw/pci: Introduce pci_device_get_viommu_flags() Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] intel_iommu: Implement get_viommu_flags() callback Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] intel_iommu: Introduce a new structure VTDHostIOMMUDevice Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] vfio/iommufd: Force creating nesting parent HWPT Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] intel_iommu_accel: Check for compatibility with IOMMUFD backed device when x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 13:59   ` Eric Auger
2025-12-11  6:49     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-12-11  7:09       ` Eric Auger
2025-12-12  2:29         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] intel_iommu_accel: Fail passthrough device under PCI bridge if x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 14:01   ` Eric Auger
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] intel_iommu_accel: Stick to system MR for IOMMUFD backed host device when x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 14:02   ` Eric Auger
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] intel_iommu: Add some macros and inline functions Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] intel_iommu_accel: Bind/unbind guest page table to host Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 17:42   ` Eric Auger
2025-12-11  7:52     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-12-12  2:12       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-12-12  3:02         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] intel_iommu_accel: Propagate PASID-based iotlb invalidation " Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 17:49   ` Eric Auger
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] intel_iommu: Replay all pasid bindings when either SRTP or TE bit is changed Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] intel_iommu: Replay pasid bindings after context cache invalidation Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] vfio/listener: Bypass readonly region for dirty tracking Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-28  2:08   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-11-28  4:27     ` Yi Liu
2025-11-28  5:47       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-11-28 12:58     ` Cédric Le Goater
2025-12-01  3:21       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] intel_iommu: Add migration support with x-flts=on Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] hw/pci: Introduce pci_device_get_host_iommu_quirks() Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] intel_iommu_accel: Implement get_host_iommu_quirks() callback Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] Workaround for ERRATA_772415_SPR17 Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-10 17:52   ` Eric Auger
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] intel_iommu: Enable host device when x-flts=on in scalable mode Zhenzhong Duan
2025-11-17  9:37 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] docs/devel: Add IOMMUFD nesting documentation Zhenzhong Duan
2025-12-09  9:50 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] intel_iommu: Enable first stage translation for passthrough device Duan, Zhenzhong

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