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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/3] block: block: introduce bdrv_io_plug() and bdrv_io_unplug()
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:39:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACVXFVOm0Ekd1-8bQ2n5gPWLy0qFJb878a8sMvJQrRr1Pmtk4w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53B3C059.3060601@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> Il 02/07/2014 02:46, Ming Lei ha scritto:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Il 01/07/2014 17:21, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this bs->file forwarding work for more than the raw driver? For
>>>>>>> example, if drv is an image format driver that needs to read some
>>>>>>> metadata from the image before it can submit the payload, does this
>>>>>>> still do what you were intending?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for not understanding the problem, and you are right, these
>>>>> patches can't support other formats, and for solving the dependency,
>>>>> changes to image format driver should be needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then let's drop the bs->file recursion here and add an explicit
>>>> .bdrv_io_plug/unplug callback to the raw driver.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I thought about this in my review, and there's no reason for
>>> this
>>> not to work for image formats.
>>>
>>> While bs->file is plugged, image formats will start executing their
>>> bdrv_co_readv/bdrv_co_writev callbacks, and issue reads or writes as
>>> necessary.  The reads and writes will accumulate in bs->file until it is
>>> unplugged, which is exactly the effect we want.
>>
>>
>> For some image formats, meta data need to be read first before
>> the payload can be read since how/what to read payload might
>> depend on content of meta data.
>
>
> Yes, but everything is done asynchronously so it should just work.  You have
>
>     plug(bs)
>       plug(bs->file)
>     read
>       start coroutine for image format read
>         issue metadata read on bs->file
>           bdrv_read ultimately calls bdrv_aio_readv on bs->file
>             I/O not submitted because bs->file is plugged
>         coroutine yields
>     unplug(bs)
>       unplug(bs->file)
>         bs->file now submits metadata read
>     ...
>     metadata read completes
>       coroutine re-entered
>         image format read restarts, unaware of plug/unplug

Then start to read payload in original path, but no plug/unplug any
more. Also another request may follows, and another plug&unplug
comes too, which makes thing more complicated, so I suggest to
enable plug&unplug only for raw driver now.

And in future we can use explicit bdrv_io_flush() to handle the
dependency in non-raw format drivers.

>
> If things do _not_ work as above I would like to understand where my
> reasoning is wrong.
>
> On top of this, there _could_ be reasons for formats to implement
> plug/unplug themselves.  They could coalesce metadata reads or copy-on-write
> operations, for example.  This however is independent from the default
> behavior, which IMO is "plugging should propagate along bs->file" (and
> possibly bs->backing_hd too, but not now because that opens more cans of
> worms).
>
>
>>> The change in bdrv_drain_all is ugly though.  I don't have a better idea,
>>> but I would like to understand better why it is needed.  Ming Lei, did
>>> you
>>> see a deadlock without it?
>>
>>
>> Not yet, just for safe reason to make sure all queued data has chance
>> to be flushed. If you think it isn't necessary, I can remove it.
>
>
> If you could make it an assertion, that would also be great.  (BTW, it's
> probably best to add a nesting count to plug/unplug).

I'd rather to add it in future if we really need that.


Thanks,
--
Ming Lei

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-02  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-01  7:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] linux-aio: introduce submit I/O at batch Ming Lei
2014-07-01  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/3] block: block: introduce bdrv_io_plug() and bdrv_io_unplug() Ming Lei
2014-07-01 11:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2014-07-01 13:31     ` Ming Lei
2014-07-01 14:39       ` Ming Lei
2014-07-01 15:21         ` Kevin Wolf
2014-07-01 16:56           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02  0:46             ` Ming Lei
2014-07-02  2:35               ` Ming Lei
2014-07-02  8:18               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02  8:38                 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-07-02  8:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02  8:39                 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2014-07-02  8:56                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02  9:12                     ` Kevin Wolf
2014-07-02  9:29                       ` Ming Lei
2014-07-02  9:49                         ` Kevin Wolf
2014-07-02 10:02                           ` Ming Lei
2014-07-02 10:24                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 10:28                               ` Ming Lei
2014-07-02  9:26                     ` Ming Lei
2014-07-01  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] linux-aio: implement io plug and unplug Ming Lei
2014-07-01  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] dataplane: submit I/O at batch Ming Lei

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