From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
"Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 5/7] x86/iommu: Make x86-iommu a singleton object
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:33:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADLectk-EyoMUD7j+mwwEVdUjMyKdJf0kwWUe8x0SyyO5Wb-uQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZyIvqQIzDq3JQNWW@redhat.com>
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2024, 9:08 a.m. Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 09:01:03AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:33:23AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 05:16:05PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > > X86 IOMMUs cannot be created more than one on a system yet. Make it
> a
> > > > singleton so it guards the system from accidentally create yet
> another
> > > > IOMMU object when one already presents.
> > > >
> > > > Now if someone tries to create more than one, e.g., via:
> > > >
> > > > ./qemu -M q35 -device intel-iommu -device intel-iommu
> > > >
> > > > The error will change from:
> > > >
> > > > qemu-system-x86_64: -device intel-iommu: QEMU does not support
> multiple vIOMMUs for x86 yet.
> > > >
> > > > To:
> > > >
> > > > qemu-system-x86_64: -device intel-iommu: Class 'intel-iommu' only
> supports one instance
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, yet we can't remove the singleton check in the machine
> > > > hook (pc_machine_device_pre_plug_cb), because there can also be
> > > > virtio-iommu involved, which doesn't share a common parent class yet.
> > > >
> > > > But with this, it should be closer to reach that goal to check
> singleton by
> > > > QOM one day.
> > >
> > > Looking at the other iommu impls, I noticed that they all have
> something
> > > in common, in that they call pci_setup_iommu from their realize()
> > > function to register their set of callback functions.
> > >
> > > This pci_setup_iommu can happily be called multiple times and just
> > > over-writes previously registered callbacks. I wonder if this is a
> better
> > > place to diagnose incorrect usage of multiple impls. If pci_setup_iommu
> > > raised an error, it wouldn't matter that virtio-iommu doesn't share
> > > a common parent with intel-iommu. This would also perhaps be better for
> > > a future heterogeneous machine types, where it might be valid to have
> > > multiple iommus concurrently. Checking at the resource
> setup/registration
> > > point reflects where the physical constraint comes from.
> >
> > There can still be side effects that vIOMMU code, at least so far,
> consider
> > it the only object even during init/realize. E.g. vtd_decide_config()
> has
> > kvm_enable_x2apic() calls which we definitely don't want to be triggered
> > during machine running. The pci_setup_iommu() idea could work indeed but
> > it might still need cleanups here and there all over the places.
>
> The side effects surely don't matter, because when we hit the error
> scenario, we'll propagate that up the stack until something calls
> exit(), since this is a cold boot path, rather than hotplug ?
>
Yes, intel iommus are not hot pluggable so it shouldn't be a major concern.
But my point is we could have similar devices that either operate on
globals or system wide behaviors. Singleton may properly protect it from
ever being created.
> With regards,
> Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-30 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 21:16 [PATCH RFC v2 0/7] QOM: Singleton interface Peter Xu
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/7] qom: Track dynamic initiations of random object class Peter Xu
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/7] qom: TYPE_SINGLETON interface Peter Xu
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/7] qdev: Make device_set_realized() be fully prepared with !machine Peter Xu
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/7] qdev: Make qdev_get_machine() safe before machine creates Peter Xu
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/7] x86/iommu: Make x86-iommu a singleton object Peter Xu
2024-10-30 10:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-30 13:01 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-30 13:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-30 14:33 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/7] migration: Make migration object " Peter Xu
2024-10-29 21:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 7/7] migration: Reset current_migration properly Peter Xu
2024-10-30 9:48 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/7] QOM: Singleton interface Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-30 13:13 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-30 16:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-30 17:51 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-30 17:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-30 18:55 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-30 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-30 19:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-31 15:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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