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From: Bin Meng <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Dmitry Fleytman" <dmitry.fleytman@gmail.com>,
	"Bin Meng" <bin.meng@windriver.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 02/10] net: Pad short frames to minimum size before send from SLiRP/TAP
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:12:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEUhbmV3rKLMbptXAGjZ5Qn4ONDmjT7-H18P2Stp=cAuSXUGuA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36123f35-06ab-d0da-37d2-6f8324e7f582@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:48 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2021/3/4 3:11 上午, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > From: Bin Meng <bin.meng@windriver.com>
> >
> > The minimum Ethernet frame length is 60 bytes. For short frames with
> > smaller length like ARP packets (only 42 bytes), on a real world NIC
> > it can choose either padding its length to the minimum required 60
> > bytes, or sending it out directly to the wire. Such behavior can be
> > hardcoded or controled by a register bit. Similarly on the receive
> > path, NICs can choose either dropping such short frames directly or
> > handing them over to software to handle.
> >
> > On the other hand, for the network backends SLiRP/TAP, they don't
> > expose a way to control the short frame behavior. As of today they
> > just send/receive data from/to the other end connected to them,
> > which means any sized packet is acceptable. So they can send and
> > receive short frames without any problem. It is observed that ARP
> > packets sent from SLiRP/TAP are 42 bytes, and SLiRP/TAP just send
> > these ARP packets to the other end which might be a NIC model that
> > does not allow short frames to pass through.
>
>
> Do we need to care about other type of networking backends? E.g socket.
>

I am not sure as I never used other backends. If someone who is more
familiar with the network codes better than me can confirm other
backends are also needed, we might do:

if (sender->info->type != NET_CLIENT_DRIVER_NIC)

> Or at least we should keep the padding logic if we can't audit all of
> the backends.

Regards,
Bin


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08  4:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-03 19:11 [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] net: Handle short frames for SLiRP/TAP interfaces Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/10] net: Use 'struct iovec' in qemu_send_packet_async_with_flags() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/10] net: Pad short frames to minimum size before send from SLiRP/TAP Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-08  3:48   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-08  4:12     ` Bin Meng [this message]
2021-03-08 10:22     ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-09  8:23       ` Jason Wang
2021-03-09  8:35         ` Bin Meng
2021-03-09  8:57           ` Jason Wang
2021-03-09  9:00             ` Bin Meng
2021-03-09  9:01               ` Bin Meng
2021-03-09 10:13                 ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-09 10:17                   ` Bin Meng
2021-03-09 12:30                   ` Yan Vugenfirer
2021-03-09 12:33                     ` Bin Meng
2021-03-12  6:25                     ` Jason Wang
2021-03-11  3:01                   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-11  3:12                     ` Bin Meng
2021-03-11  3:33                       ` Jason Wang
2021-03-11  7:35                         ` Bin Meng
2021-03-11  9:43                     ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-11  9:58                       ` Bin Meng
2021-03-11 10:22                         ` Peter Maydell
2021-03-11 10:27                           ` Bin Meng
2021-03-12  6:22                             ` Jason Wang
2021-03-12  6:28                               ` Bin Meng
2021-03-12  6:50                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-03-12  6:53                                   ` Bin Meng
2021-03-12  7:02                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-03-03 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/10] hw/net: e1000: Remove the logic of padding short frames in the receive path Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/10] hw/net: vmxnet3: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/10] hw/net: i82596: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/10] hw/net: ne2000: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/10] hw/net: pcnet: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/10] hw/net: rtl8139: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/10] hw/net: sungem: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-03 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/10] hw/net: sunhme: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-03-08  1:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] net: Handle short frames for SLiRP/TAP interfaces Bin Meng

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