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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: Generic way to detect qemu linux-user emulation
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:08:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA-=FaNSQOSG3iFua30baATRvjBQPd5TfG6fBqJrFBFuYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_ZBz3yvUYo5WhqmKRqCm+Jy1R01pshtU0NPRzzbP4hYQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 at 15:04, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> More generally, AIUI glibc expects that it has control over what's
> happening with threads, so it can set up its own data structures
> for the new thread (e.g. for TLS variables). This email from the
> glibc mailing list is admittedly now two decades old
> https://public-inbox.org/libc-alpha/200408042007.i74K7ZOr025380@magilla.sf.frob.com/
> but it says:
>
> # Basically, if you want to call libc functions you should do it from a
> # thread that was set up by libc or libpthread.  i.e., if you make your own
> # threads with clone, only call libc functions from the initial thread.

I spoke to some glibc devs on IRC and they confirmed that this
remains true for modern glibc: because glibc needs to set up
things like TLS on new threads, you can't mix your own direct
calls to clone() with calls to glibc functions.

-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-18 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-18 10:18 Generic way to detect qemu linux-user emulation Andreas Schwab
2025-03-18 10:36 ` Helge Deller
2025-03-18 10:45   ` Helge Deller
2025-03-18 10:53   ` Peter Maydell
2025-03-18 11:58     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-18 12:34       ` Andreas Schwab
2025-03-18 12:43         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-18 13:06           ` Peter Maydell
2025-03-18 13:54             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-18 14:17               ` Andreas Schwab
2025-03-18 17:32                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-18 15:04               ` Peter Maydell
2025-03-18 17:08                 ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2025-03-18 17:18                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-18 17:48                     ` Peter Maydell
2025-03-18 11:10   ` Andreas Schwab

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