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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>,
	Al Stone <al.stone@linaro.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] hw/arm/virt-acpi - reserve ECAM space as PNP0C02 device
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:56:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA-Cdyq-dQ0U79TSsjJWQ2TO0R11RCWzAemSRS_1M65meg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170117094950.5dqdpbk6u7p4yhms@kamzik.brq.redhat.com>

On 17 January 2017 at 09:49, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com> wrote:
> In some cases the problem we're solving with the compat guards is
> a bit hypothetical, but, IMHO, nonetheless a good practice. While
> we may be sure that AAVMF and Linux will be fine with this table
> changing under their feet, we can't be sure there aren't other
> mach-virt users that have more sensitive firmwares/OSes. An ACPI-
> sensitive OS may notice the change on its next reboot after a
> migration, and then simply refuse to continue.

There's also the case where you do a VM migration midway through
UEFI booting up, I think, which might cause things to go wrong
if you catch it just at the wrong moment.

> Now, that said, I just spoke with Igor in order to learn the x86
> practice. He says that the policy has been more lax than what I
> suggest above. Hypothetical, low-risk issues are left unguarded,
> and only when a bug is found during testing is it then managed.
> The idea is to try and reduce the amount of compat variables and
> conditions needed in the ACPI generation code, but, of course, at
> some level of risk to users expecting their versioned machine type
> to always appear the same.
>
> So far we've been strict with mach-virt, guarding all hypothetical
> issues. Perhaps this patch is a good example to get a discussion
> started on whether or not we should be so strict though.

That said, I don't have a very strong opinion here, beyond that
we should be consistent at least with x86 practice.

thanks
-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-17 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-13 17:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] hw/arm/virt-acpi - reserve ECAM space as PNP0C02 device Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-16 17:25 ` Peter Maydell
2017-01-16 17:30   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-16 18:20     ` Peter Maydell
2017-01-16 19:31       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-16 21:13         ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-01-16 21:23           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-16 22:35             ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-01-17  7:47               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-17  8:50                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-01-17  9:06                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-17  9:28                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-01-17 14:46               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-17  9:49         ` Andrew Jones
2017-01-17 10:56           ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2017-01-18 15:18             ` Igor Mammedov
2017-01-18 15:55               ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-01-18 17:02                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-01-18 17:26                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-01-19 13:16                     ` Peter Maydell
2017-01-18 14:49           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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