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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: G 3 <programmingkidx@gmail.com>,
	"list@suse.de:PowerPC list:PowerPC" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] How to add my implementation of the fmadds instruction to QEMU
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 08:41:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA-CgBpy-c7bx1XCw8BBcotANFphDOpK9u9-xmLDg2bJkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160929041750.GN8390@umbus.fritz.box>

On 28 September 2016 at 21:17, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> I think there is a way you could get both speed and accuracy, but it's
> a huge project:
>
> You'd need to add full float awareness to TCG - so floating point TCG
> values and floating point operations as tcp micro-ops, defined
> according to IEEE semantics.  Then you'd need to rewrite the TCG
> frontends in terms of those new ops, at least for target CPUs close
> enough to IEEE semantics for that to work.  And you'd need to rewrite
> the TCG backends to implement those fp ops in terms of host cpu fp
> instructions .. at least when the host has fp behaviour close enough
> to IEEE to make that work, with a fallback to soft float when that's
> not the case.

Also even if you have float support in both frontend and backend
you still need to fall back to fully-emulated for the runtime
corner cases (like where tininess before/after rounding makes a
difference or where you need to care about minutiae of the
floating point exception flags, etc). It's not impossible
but it is a very large amount of technically complicated work.

thanks
-- PMM

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-27  1:05 [Qemu-devel] How to add my implementation of the fmadds instruction to QEMU G 3
2016-09-27  3:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2016-09-27 11:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2016-09-27 14:33   ` G 3
2016-09-27 15:21     ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-27 16:16     ` Eric Blake
2016-09-27 16:51       ` G 3
2016-09-27 16:58         ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-29  4:17           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2016-09-29 15:20             ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 18:19               ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-29 21:52                 ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 22:36                   ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-29 22:39                     ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 15:41             ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2016-09-29 16:55               ` Programmingkid
2016-09-30  0:39                 ` David Gibson
2016-09-30  0:44                   ` Programmingkid

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