From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97183C433ED for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E04CD6105A for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:32:14 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E04CD6105A Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=linaro.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:52980 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc3xt-0007Hx-Pf for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 06:32:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc3wU-00062z-VF for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 06:30:46 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]:37780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc3wT-0004PI-Bf for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 06:30:46 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id w3so99138756ejc.4 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 03:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WZMW8rZa8JiefjVoIlMAdTAnYotZua4qnNl5p8AWfUw=; b=WI8YMImP/2k3+kjiVFMIlu1T7ogXDrRIb7Dv1sf5gnhjt5z7005WScXDGkGxiO1BKg mCrvq2JPWEWUpv9RlArWAoatAZKzusccODbpyusP5JfENxFvWQzBQc5thI8ZfD9Rw+by O4NaHdpzPueoyti7XTz34FLLxInkJyI+PeurRKF39nLVGAkNV3cdu5ujHJWyYQdej9bB fcLuNqWHBCBstPE8NWjr73fsN6d94+UbfU5YfwaEZIz9myAEdCVVCZg0vBfIIRfoZXvF J4lkzTPZXwl1KRs+ScSsDLbFCIxWhBGDTj2VqnIthPCXF43nO8wLn++TZGW3TyJu3vYg FpaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WZMW8rZa8JiefjVoIlMAdTAnYotZua4qnNl5p8AWfUw=; b=XbeG3AuPXFkKjMVjLregKmXNkWJElbxfBwP/Bor1fwkU9hJSlHYYAxVqAF4i2QNJaJ 5Cs3oUaZuQJzmsab7gbxC42ndiJFYBXP80o3TZVIWT7c1DAvWo0whSjLJAjsnv19PTgs VFi/NRUYWCPJ3qmklHg+qsUrAS85D2hYidPjChff0hXooqp8/H9e01nWESFHIWKujcwD OJmyVwk7siMR9YcI8ld9EPQAD7WzpTAKGzvqZZALwf2D0gNRsChAMmsMHR5gzTrGY856 rYnK63z4eSN20RWLOpe5gQgg8+YhrUeFq1v/5aMO7tnM1GtTOzW4fpbLYOzFuFqpfbBE FRKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532uK8O6FzvfobdVV0/Lo6zxBhTbQ+QnWMncC/ua2KFMMwaNuixa +ikIa5RRKBzZuazfIS034CVLkCBm8fR00MI2hh0u067gENc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxSZbTFDW1+kDEGTfEEmJxVbInI4zPoMbJc+0vza1Losno+IRcc0kSiAgk6kyc6X/0NDvZa+yUq6s47jIeCIaw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:8303:: with SMTP id j3mr34107303ejx.85.1619692243165; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 03:30:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87y2d1csxe.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20210429101842.hupkajdlkttq6l4v@sirius.home.kraxel.org> In-Reply-To: From: Peter Maydell Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:29:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Let's remove some deprecated stuff To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2E_Berrang=C3=A9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62b; envelope-from=peter.maydell@linaro.org; helo=mail-ej1-x62b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Kevin Wolf , Thomas Huth , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu=2DDaud=C3=A9?= , QEMU Developers , Markus Armbruster , Alistair Francis , Gerd Hoffmann , Stefan Hajnoczi , =?UTF-8?B?S8WRdsOhZ8OzLCBab2x0w6Fu?= , Robert Hoo , =?UTF-8?B?QWxleCBCZW5uw6ll?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 11:28, Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 = wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:18:42PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > ``QEMU_AUDIO_`` environment variables and ``-audio-help`` (since = 4.0) > > > Creating sound card devices and vnc without ``audiodev=3D`` prope= rty (since 4.2) > > > Creating sound card devices using ``-soundhw`` (since 5.1) > > > > I think these three should be dropped together, to minimize disruption. > > > > Where do we strand in terms of libvirt support? IIRC audiodev=3D suppo= rt > > in libvirt is rather recent (merged this year). I'd tend to wait a bit > > longer because of that. > > > > Daniel? > > Libvirt added supoort for -audio in 7.2.0, release April 4th, so only > one month ago. > > If we drop the features in QEMU in this dev cycle though, this won't > impact most users until QEMU 6.1 releases in mid August. I'm perfectly > ok with people who use unreleased QEMU git master needing to update > their libvirt. The final release date is far enough away that distros > will have had new enough libvirt for a good while. It does feel to me that dropping the old options now would be being a bit over-eager, though. The deprecation cycle time is a minimum, not a target :-) -- PMM