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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: "浩倫 魏" <goberwei@yahoo.com.tw>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] What's the differences betweencld/st and qemu_ld/st in TCG IR?
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 22:17:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA-jWe907_QBGWbnGS-RN2zd=vXsqWDSnOnADdivBOsNjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1183137169.307126.1432383513091.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

On 23 May 2015 at 13:18, 浩倫 魏 <goberwei@yahoo.com.tw> wrote:
> Hi, all:
> I've been trying to understand the process of binary translation inside TCG.
> If I haven't misunderstood, qemu_ld/st are the operations that will call
> helper function(ld_mmu) to let softmmu translate the GVA->GPA for the guest
> load/store instructions.
> So there are some points that I hope you can help me out:
> 1. Is every guest load/store instruction would be translated to qemu_ld/st
> IR?

Yes, as a general rule. There are a few special cases:
 * sometimes complicated instructions are just translated into
   calls to helper functions which do the guest memory access
   at runtime (for instance x86 cmpxchg8b turns into a call to
   helper_cmpxchg8b())
 * for linux-user some of the atomic instructions (load-lock/
   store-conditional pairs) are handled by translating to a
   "raise internal exception" call, and the actual load/store
   is then dealt with in linux-user/main.c
   [This mechanism might change in the near future; we're looking at
   multi-threaded TCG emulation, and so might switch the linux-user
   atomics to work the same way as a future mechanism for doing atomics
   in multi-threaded system emulation]
But almost all guest accesses will turn into qemu_ld/st ops.

> 2. What about another TCG IR "ld/st"? What kind of guest instructions would
> cause TCG generates that IRs and for what purpose?

These just do plain load/store to the *host* address specified.
This is almost always used to read a value from the CPU state
structure (CPUARMState, etc). Generated code always has access
to a pointer to this struct, and uses the ld/st ops to read
or write fields within it. (If you search for tcg_gen_ld
in target-*/ you'll see lots of examples.) The op can be used
for any host load or store, but in practice use for anything
other than "read a value from the CPU state struct" is very rare.

-- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-23 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-23 12:18 [Qemu-devel] What's the differences betweencld/st and qemu_ld/st in TCG IR? 浩倫 魏
2015-05-23 21:17 ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2015-05-24  0:09   ` 浩倫 魏

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